Doge is a joke crypto currency, and I don't mean that as an insult I mean it was literally started as a joke by the developers to make fun of the crazy crypto speculation. Elon latched onto it as part of a joke and I think it just spiraled out of his control and he does not want to admit to being out of his league. He even alluded to this in his SNL skit.
Would you go to a world renown brain surgeon for advice on what is wrong with your car engine? Of course not but the brain surgeon is likely a very smart person surrounded by other very smart people. Car engines are just not their fields of expertise, much like cryptocurrencies are not Elon's. Elon is a meme lord, and goes to where the social media attention is. I am a huge fan of the guy but pretty much ignore everything he says outside of renewables and space because that's his wheel house. Don't get trapped in cults of personality.
Want to understand crypto, follow the people that are building in it. I recommend:
https://twitter.com/VitalikButerin https://twitter.com/aantonop
Someone that understands crypto second to none but acts like he does not while delivering incredible content: https://twitter.com/cobie
want someone smart that lives in the space that is anti - crypto: https://twitter.com/nntaleb
This guy is a bull market genius who is also a master shitposter. Much, if not all of his content is moronic, but this sort of content is posted ironically but then becomes part of the in-jokes people mistake for talent. Toxic.
> don't blindly take the word
What makes you think I am? Elon's opinion is a data point
> he does not want to admit to being out of his league
You don't know this
> Don't get trapped in cults of personality
I've made many criticisms of Musk, especially his pronouncements about self-driving cars
I think you're mistaking me for a fanboi. I'm just gathering information. I do follow Vitalik Buterin, but there are plenty of criticisms of his tech too.
"The Ethereum virtual machine has the equivalent computational power of an Atari 2600 from the 1970s except it runs on casino chips that cost $500"
Steven Diehl - Web3 is Bullshit
Thanks for the links. I'll add them to my list. I just really got serious about this subject so I started compiling a list of skeptics and enthusiasts who write about it often so I can follow along. Here they are in case you can use them.
Skeptics
SwiftOnSecurity https://twitter.com/SwiftOnSecurity
Nicholas Weaver https://twitter.com/ncweaver
Molly White https://twitter.com/molly0xFFF
Dare Obasanjo https://twitter.com/Carnage4Life
Stephen Diehl https://twitter.com/smdiehl
Enthusiasts
Ser Jeff Garzik https://twitter.com/jgarzik
Marc Andreessen https://twitter.com/pmarca
Bram Cohen https://twitter.com/bramcohen
jack(@jack) https://twitter.com/jack
suzuha https://twitter.com/dystopiabreaker
cdixon.eth https://twitter.com/cdixon
He's also got a track history of being massively wrong at times on things that aren't inside his wheelhouse, like confidently predicting the end of COVID by April 2020.
I'm guessing you are referring to this Tweet, which indeed was very wrong "Based on current trends, probably close to zero new cases in US too by end of April": https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1240754657263144960
But other than that, I would say he's been ~90% right about COVID. Much more accurate than our main media organizations.
This hit piece on Forbes lists 5 times he was wrong, but in fact he was right in 4 out of 5 of those, https://www.forbes.com/sites/joewalsh/2021/03/13/elon-musks-...
You don't need to know much about crypto to be able to accept it.
What do you base this on? I mean, how are you assessing his level of knowledge in this domain?
PayPal is a thing I actually use and it works well. He knows more than I do, which is not saying much, but I'm trying to learn. If Hacker News says he's doesn't know anything about crypto, that's a piece of information I can stick in my notes to consider.
> I think I have a pretty deep understanding of what money actually is on a practical day-to-day basis, because of PayPal.
His comments in the exchange seem insightful to me. I assume you didn't bother reading them.
For example, one of the points is that the current financial system is problematic because it runs on COBOL. There's no actual criticism as to why running on COBOL is bad, other than the indirect insinuation that COBOL is old, not modern, and therefore it sucks. Basically, it's futurism for the sake of futurism--new is inherently better than old, and anything that is old is attacked as being bad without analyzing the relative benefits of new and old (see also Musk's comments about Hyperloop and Loop, which are severely lacking in the 'mass' department compared to the 'mass transit' options they are notionally competing against).
It is possible to be insightful about issues with the current financial system. You could point to issues like the reliance on unsecured FTP of text files to actually do settlement in SWIFT. Or you might point to issues like the fact that ATH doesn't have protections against unscrupulous users stealing all your money. That kind of information would be insightful, but instead, we get mere castigation at the age of COBOL, which is completely orthogonal to any actual issues with the financial systems.
Outside of this dismissal because of COBOL, the only other main point that Musk makes is, well, the standard libertarian viewpoint on economy that inflation is a hidden government tax. But even here, it's not fully developed--perhaps because the "benefit" of dogecoin over bitcoin is that the former has more inflation than the latter, and if you think about it too hard, you might be poking holes in his argument.
In any case, "insightful" is not an adequate adjective to describe Musk's comments here.
The idea that Musk only thinks COBOL sucks is because it's old... well, most of Tesla's self-driving code is written in C (invented in the '70s).
Overall, I maintain that Musk's opinion is at least relevant. PayPal was disruptive to the financial industry, and Musk was very technically engaged there.
Like the OP, I'm not a Musk fanboy. But I appreciate his perspectives and contributions. Maybe any ire would be better directed towards corporate raiders that aren't manufacturing anything valuable for society, etc.
I assumed this was his way of saying the system is antiquated and encompasses your other criticisms, because the show is already long enough for him to spend more time on it