checked for a fresh laravel install: 110 packages, 40 of those are development dependencies. Of the 70, only 38 are non (symfony/laravel) dependencies.
The PHP ecosystem tends to use packages-for-interfaces, so that ups the count somewhat.
The PHP ecosystem tends to use packages-for-interfaces, so that ups the count somewhat.
The point is that Composer packages are far from being that granular, we have less dependencies by literally order of magnitude.
laravel/framework:
no-dev-deps: 307,405 lines of PHP (36MB)
all-deps: 535,383 lines of PHP (58MB)
react (stock create-react-app)[1] all-deps: 1,570,720 lines of Javascript + 96417 lines of typescript (348MB)
rails (rails new app): (no-dev-deps): 264123 lines of Ruby + 23614 lines of C + 17009 lines of JS (55MB)
(all-deps): 332083 lines of Ruby + 23614 lines of C + 18055 lines of JS (54MB)
Here's the raw results: https://www.toptal.com/developers/hastebin/osujizeraw.txt[1]: create-react-app doesn't split out dev/prod dependencies https://stackoverflow.com/a/44872787/368328