>Danish intelligence also helped the US agency to spy on the Danish foreign and finance ministries as well as a Danish weapons manufacturer. The FE also cooperated with the NSA on spying operations against the US government itself.
https://www.dw.com/en/danish-secret-service-helped-us-spy-on...
The NSA made the Danish FE spy on both the Danish and US government. That is wild.
It’s long be standard practice for intelligence agencies in 5/9 Eyes to ask each other to spy on the others citizens when it would be illegal to do so themselves.
The NSA for example would find it difficult to spy on Senators, this is there way around it. And there is no denying there has be a reasonable cause to in the last four years.
If there's actually reasonable cause go to a court, get a warrant and investigate.
Isn't this the same as saying that you don't think there should be fundamental rights for people you don't agree with?
Having said all that, I’m no expert, I’m just a John Le Carre fan.
Yea who needs laws when we can just instate shadow government agencies with shadow budgets and their own set of alternative laws.
That is exactly what you are suggesting. These rules should not be "bent" because there are legal mechanisms to investigate that are being blatantly bypassed to make things easier
Second, my personal opinion on how intelligent agency’s operate is irrelevant. I am only trying to inform on my understanding how they sometimes operate in relation to the original far more interesting article.
Checks and balances are obviously essential and are the priority in all cases.
Finally, while I don’t believe in the boogie man, people, anyone, can be bad.
No it wasn't. Unless you could see what I typed into the web form before I hit submit.
>> while I don’t believe in the boogie man
Well you should. They're here. They are the NSA, the FBI, the CIA, and other government agencies that regularly operate out of bounds of legality. If the horrible things that they have done and continue to do don't shock you and create the desire for their radical change or elimination entirely, you are stupid or malicious.
I’m not American and so have little interest in their internal politics other than as a spectator.
That's why we should all care
Don't like it? Don't apply for a job that requires a clearance.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/31/cia-admits-spy...
Yes there is. The US has domestic intelligence agencies, why should the NSA be engaging in domestic intelligence when it's explicitly not their mandate?
This goes against the actual agreements in place, where they have to treat the other citizens as their countries do.
A Danish arms manufacturer planning on doing a deal with Gaddaffi during sanctions era?
A member of the White House in Europe to meet with Russian contacts, off his calendar, in the middle of an investigation into possible illicit ties between the White House and Russia?
The Head of US Olympics suspected of taking of bribes, having meeting with Addidas in Copenhagen with big money changing hands?
There are plenty of things like that going on.
Although not Westerners against Chinese (my kids are welcome to play with the Chinese kids next door and the Chinese next door are just as welcome as any other neighbor to a garden party).
But it should be the world against crimes against humanity.
And then we Westerners will also have to clean up our own systems; that is just as important, but a smaller task.
We don't know how many people have died as a direct result of Chinese internal policies and we likely never will. They certainly cannot be believed with any statements about human rights, imprisonment, or executions on any level. I would likely extend that to education due to rampant cheating and the interests of the central government (to look as good as possible regardless of the facts), but that is a separate conversation.
At the current rate, all ~13 million Uighurs in mainland China will effectively cease to exist in a generation or three. They'll still exist in genetic terms, but their culture will have been erased except for small pockets of holdouts, who will be hunted down and assimilated/imprisoned. This isn't to minimize the death toll of the War on Terror, but rather to not allow seriously bad actors to escape the scrutiny they deserve.
They are being culturally blunted and they will likely eventually be bred out of being a distinct group.
https://apnews.com/article/ap-top-news-international-news-we... https://apnews.com/article/ap-top-news-international-news-pr... https://www.voanews.com/a/east-asia-pacific_voa-news-china_c... https://share.america.gov/china-coerces-uyghur-women-into-un...
The latter two links are indeed .gov propaganda outlets, but their reporting on this issue is accurate. It's very easy to find more sources.