Foxconn doesn't uniformly suck, either. They abide by local laws, and they clearly cut corners and fail more often than they should -- but it's not like Foxconn is the seventh plane of Hell and all interactions are tainted with sin.
Apple 1000% are capable of making sure that nothing like that ever happened again and yet here we are not long after.
Apple has a very sketchy history in general when it comes to China and there is no reason at this point to assume this is some innocent mistake.
This very clearly isn’t some kind of regular workplace with otherwise reasonable conditions.
What has been repeated described there over many years and many accounts is by every reasonable definition a human rights and moral nightmare.
Just waving this away as the “normal” course of business seems gross
With 350K employees, you’d expect about 34 suicides per year if their rate was at the national average. At 3 a month, yeah, I’d put up nets as well.
While I’m sure the reporting doesn’t tag every worker who happens to commit suicide as a Foxconn suicide, I don’t see evidence that the Foxconn suicide rate is higher than the national average and sibling comments and Wikipedia (sourcing ABC News and the Economist) are claiming it’s lower.
The nightmares you describe might very well be a big improvement over normal life in that country.
Blaming Apple for a statistically average rate of suicide is madness; they make phones, they aren’t all-powerful
They promised us they would fix it and they didn’t. It appears they didn’t even try because all of the conditions outlined in this article would have become very obvious if they managed to do the absolute bare minimum of analysis by say visiting these locations.
The accusation here is that Apple lied and they knew about this and that’s not ok.
Let’s be honest here, it’s a bit of net. “Dedicated anti suicide infrastructure” Jesus Christ pull the other one.
I’m curious how many people would have to commit suicide before you’d splash out on some nets? I think one would do it for me…
>This very clearly isn’t some kind of regular workplace with otherwise reasonable conditions.
Or maybe "suicide + apple factory" gets clicks/comments (like this article/thread), leading apple to install preventative measures to make it look like they're doing something. I seriously would still like to see statistics before jumping to conclusions either way.
There is very clearly a big problem here. That isn’t click bait.
I see what you did there :)
My city has installed suicide netting on bridges, presumably because residents "were killing themselves in such large numbers". Should they be getting similar flak?
Just because people were killing themselves on that city, it doesn't mean it's the city fault. But that logic does not apply to corporation dorms.
Dressing that up as progress hardly feels right. They could have solved all of this the first time around.
It's the bad situations that make the news. If things are basically ok this week at the factory, it's not going to make headlines.
Furthermore, I’m saying that last time this happened we were promised that they didn’t know and that this would never happen again.
Yet, here we are with proof that things have not actually changed in any meaningful sense and the worlds largest company has a giant human rights problem at the core of their supply chain and there is no way they can claim ignorance this time. They are looking the other way on purpose..