My personal favorite was something like "No, Trump was not telling the Truth, Clinton did not submerge her servers in acid." prior to the 2016 election. That is when I knew the guy would never get a fair shake, no matter what he did.
> Will Jerry Nadler ever look into the fact that Crooked Hillary deleted and acid washed 33,000 emails AFTER getting a most powerful demand notice for them from Congress?
[1] https://web.archive.org/web/20190824131756/https://twitter.c...
"The Claim Trump says Clinton 'acid washed' her email server.
The Truth Clinton's team used an app called BleachBit; she did not use a corrosive chemical."
https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/785299709342654465
This was October 9, 2016. I have no love for the man, but like I said, we were never gonna get the media to be fair about him. Gosh, she did not use a corrosive chemical! SHEESH!
He doesn't seem to have been talking about BleachBit, because he said in his ABC interview on 2016-09-05
> I mean, she had her emails — 33,000 emails — acid washed. The most sophisticated person never heard about acid washing. Acid washing is a very expensive process and that’s to really get rid of them.
and at a couple campaign events the next day
> But why do you acid wash, or bleach, the emails? Nobody even heard of it before. Very expensive
and
> How about the 33,000 missing e-mails that were acid washed — acid washed. And Rudy was telling me, nobody does it because it’s such an expensive process.
BeachBit is free software. There is nothing "expensive" about obtaining it, installing it, or using it. So what the heck was he trying to get at?
The Clinton camp and their supporters in the media were the ones being disingenuous, and seizing on the chemical angle to deny malfeasance. Versions of "she didn't wash the server with acid", or the infamous "wipe, like with a cloth?" comments do not debunk the core claim, that data was deleted, and the Clinton political machine are savvy and cynical enough operators to know this.
That is my question. Do you sincerely believe he thought that was what had happened?
You have been misinformed. You should watch the video. I watched the video back when it happened and it was blatantly obvious he wasn't saying you could cure Covid by swallowing bleach. Unfortunately I can't find the video now but here's an article that lines up with my recollection of the events[1]:
> The former President did not instruct people to drink bleach, but he did suggest that the use of disinfectants as a treatment should be researched.
> Disinfectant knocks it out in a minute. Is there a way we can do something like that? By injection, inside, or almost as cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs. it would be interesting to check that,
While the BBC[0] transcribes
> And then I see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning? So it'd be interesting to check that.
In popular relation 'injection' was rendered as 'swallow', which is indeed technically inaccurate. However 'suggested that the use of disinfectants as a treatment should researched' is a very, very generous interpretation of that sequence of words, and not the message that anyone watching that event walked away with.
Trump later said he was being sarcastic, which makes even less sense to me than anything he said or was accused of saying.
He never said that or anything like that and we don't know what he was thinking.
You are spreading fakes. In a thread about fakes.
> I sincerely do believe Trump is that stupid.
When left-wing media does the fact-checking, Trump indeed looks bleak.
> And then I see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning? So it'd be interesting to check that.
'The president said to swallow bleach' is an uncharitable and inaccurate summary of that line, but so is 'he never said that or anything like that'. At an absolute minimum he spit-balled an idea about internal application of 'disinfectant' live on national television. His manner of self-presentation was more than bleak enough without any additional interpretative efforts.
This statement is still grossly misleading at best.
(Especially because this lies about "drinking bleach" was actually spread by Joe Biden and repeated numerous times in left-leaning media.)
What he said is he suggested to study it. Which is fine. He never "suggested" injecting it or drinking it.
> nobody got hurt
American democracy got hurt. People belief in system is reduced.
No, it absolutely is not fine for the President to spitball dangerous ideas like that on live national television. Even Trump later said he was being "sarcastic". Is that an appropriate moment to be sarcastic? Did he sound sarcastic at the time?
I don't understand your reflexive defense of Trump. There's a million things to hang the guy for, this isn't like Obama and his tan suit or his dijon mustard.
Maybe. This is topic for another discussion. For now it would be appropriate for you to admit you were wrong. Factually incorrect.
> I don't understand your reflexive defense of Trump.
I don’t defend Trump. I defend facts.
> There's a million things to hang the guy for
Perhaps you came to this conclusion after trusting fake news.
So I suggest you read some books, that will put your “facts” in a larger context that makes them so you don’t miss the forest for the trees. Trump is a bad person who belongs nowhere near any levers of power except in charge of his grifting operations to sucker “patriots” off their money to pay off his debts.
I’ll give Trump this, though. He’s not as crazy as a lot of his followers and fellow grifters. His recent Candace Owens interview where he promoted the vaccine was comedy gold. Trump isn’t dumb enough to think the vaccine doesn’t work.
Never forget:
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/05/11/politics/trump-time-magaz...
disclaimer: I am European, I have no skin in the game here
[1] https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/cruz-wuhan-tweet/
[2] https://www.snopes.com/news/2021/07/16/lab-leak-evidence/