Not anywhere nearly as bad as the remaining crowd made it out to be. At least according to economic and social data, things are actually going pretty well.
You're doing the same thing you're criticizing, you just gave your opinion, no facts.
> At least _according to economic and social data_, things are actually going _pretty well_.
> _everything I've seen_ so far indicates a _slow trainwreck_
This happens a lot in this thread. Basically Yes-huh, Nuh-uh arguments.
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Merry Christmas everyone, maybe a future rule of no political threads on this day.
> Disentangling precisely what has been caused by the pandemic and what is the result of Brexit is difficult.
In no way do they do that. They are attributing Brexit as the cause without any proof.
They only note the decrease, they don't link it to Brexit. You can't directly compare 2021 to pre-pandemic levels because economies were shut down.
These decreases are caused by the pandemic, in no way does the article link Brexit to these numbersl
> The extent of economic damage from Brexit has been made clear by the Office for Budget Responsibility, which predicts that leaving the EU will reduce our long-term GDP by around 4%, compared to a fall of around 1.5% that will be caused by the pandemic.
Okay a prediction from a budget office, many times these are far off, many times they are political. That's not a statistic, it's a prediction from one group based on conjecture.
So let me ask you this, what _FACT_ (statistic), not _OPINION_ (prediction) have you seen that leads you to believe Brexit resulted in economic loss?
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-59070020
And that's not 'exports' per se, as much as it is GDP.
The reason you don't say the fact is because there is no fact in that article.
What in that article proved to you that Brexit caused this? What explained the 4%?
A comparison of post-Brexit, pre-pandemic GDP numbers is more reliable:
https://www.businessinsider.com/moodys-brexit-impact-on-gdp-...
The pandemic clearly caused a drop in the GDP when it hit, Brexit did not. You have to PROVE why you think Brexit caused this dip in 2021 all of a sudden.
You can't just say, oh look a dip finally happened, these things take time to kick in, it must be that thing I think was going to do it.
All the way until the pandemic Brexit GDP was steady, not following the doomsday forecasts, only when the pandemic hit did the GDP drop.
You can directly attribute shutting down the economy to a drop in GDP. You have not attributed anything to Brexit.
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First off, the point was the GDP was stead in 2018, post-Brexit, pre-pandemic.
The reason you can't use 2021 GDP numbers directly is because we shut down economies due to covid.
You linked two articles with the same "prediction", they did not have any facts linking Brexit to anything.
Feel free to get angry and give up, but do note that nothing you have linked proves Brexit caused the dip in GDP at all.
I'm not claiming anything, I can't prove a negative. You have the burden of proof if you are trying to say X caused Y.
The reason you can't use 2021 GDP numbers directly is because we shut down economies due to covid.
Second, you linked two articles with the same "prediction", they did not have any facts linking Brexit to anything.
Feel free to get angry and give up, but do note that nothing you have linked proves Brexit caused the dip in GDP at all.
I'm not claiming anything, I can't prove a negative. You have the burden of proof if you are trying to say X caused Y.
If your social data is the number of continentals in Britain then, sure, it is delivering. Shame it’s tanking the whole country in the process. Otherwise, poverty and inequality haven’t exactly improved.