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Been running Fedora + Steam for over a year, now. The experience has been great. It’s hard to imagine going back. I do miss Mac hardware, though. My 1.5 year old Dell XPS already has a bad key, and a faulty WiFi card. It’s complete garbage.

My next laptop will be the Framework 15” 4K option whenever they make one…

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I like how your first thing when complaining about a non-Mac laptop is a complaint about the keyboard. Oh, you sweet summer child :)

I've had plenty of Macs, including the butterfly keyboard (which did go bad on me). But. It took that butterfly keyboard longer to go bad than the Dell XPS. The Dell is honestly a steaming pile of crap.

Unpopular opinion: I miss my butterfly keyboard. I never had any of the flaky-key issues. And I loved the crisp feel of the keys.

I don’t need key travel. I like the futuristic (and unrealistic) idea of typing on glass. In some ways, the butterfly was just a step away from that, but with the slightest bit of physical feedback.

At the least, I definitely did not loathe the butterfly like mini.

Same here. The butterfly felt much better than the Magic Keyboard. I also liked the way it sounded.

What I didn't like is that it went bad after 2 years of not very heavy use (I have an external keyboard). If Apple could make a reliable butterfly keyboard, I'd love to have it.

OTOH, I appreciate the new ones having a keyboard that feel closer to the pre-Magic ones (same feel as the pre-butterfly laptops). It's OK, if not a revolution.

Just curious, but do you use the laptop’s keyboard when playing games? Even for the limited style of gaming I do I can not imagine not using a full sized wireless keyboard and mouse.

I mostly use a real mouse and good mechanical keyboard for work, and a PS3 controller for play. This is why the laptop’s keyboard failure is even less excusable.

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