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I wonder when there will be cloud co-ops?

This. Turn the "cloud is somebody else's computer" on its head and own part that computer.

Why not "own" AWS, GCP, Azure etc.? Because you can't. They are part of conglomerates that come with a moral baggage that is too heavy for some.

ps. No "hyperscaling" ability required. The idea that business activity is either complete dominance or death is part of that unfit-for-purpose mentality.

I do actually own shares in some of those companies. That's kind of the point. You can own the internet, and that's before even "Web 3".

Cool idea, then we can call it 'the internet' again.

its not exactly the same. there are probably significant efficiencies (energy, security etc) in provisioning and sharing "cloud" hardware in reasonably large chunks.

You are right, but I saw some striking similarities, and needed to joke about it.

The other direction is to use the commercial clouds but aggressively defending their status as a commodity. Have VMs at multiple providers and move your load between them as needed.

Would be much better than getting locked in to a company you have no control over.

Now: https://holo.host

Ready for testing and pre-release R&D.

IMO, an ideal co-op cloud host wouldn't have a bunch of complicated p2p junk. Just a good ol' datacenter and people to operate it, with the cost and governance shared by the organizations running workloads on it.

What's your connection to Holo? You seem to mention them a lot.

Yes, I do; sorry about that! They seem relevant, a lot...

I was on the development team for a couple years; now, I'm independently developing some technology on the platform. I'll announce it soon, I hope.

With the recent AWS outages, and systematic de-platforming of some legal businesses, there seems to be a growing realization that dependence on centralized hosting platforms is ... dangerous.

Holo / Holochain seems to provide a unique solution to some of these problems.

Sounds interesting, and thanks for disclosing your connection to Holo! :)

pure FUD. bugs happen decentralized systems can be even more problematic to resolve issues in due to their decentralized nature and the usual requirement that fixes be deployed system wide.

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