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Comment by yumraj | Hacker News Reader

Actually this is fantastic for someone like me - assuming there are no security holes of course.

I don't want my next car to have remote start or remote anything. If not paying the subscription allows me to make sure that that feature is not enabled, it's great news, for me.

Of course, different people have different preferences and needs.

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It's definitely still there. If you're worried about hackers etc, they can surely bypass this control if they've bypassed everything else.

I fully understand, that is why I noted: assuming there are no security holes

Ideally there should be a hardware switch :)

"Im in! Wait! $8/month?! Go get mom's credit card"

The reality is that it's probably still there, you just don't have access to it.

Whether you pay or not the car will have the capability and it will dutifully ask the home server what it should do. Toyota will still be able to see exactly where you, what you're doing, and be able to unlock/start your car whenever they want. you just won't be able to.

Not with the antennas removed.

I don't know how serious you are, but the modern LTE antennas are really small and are tightly integrated. Very difficult to remove without severely damaging the system.

I assume if you dont pay the convenience fee for the fob, then you will be auto-enrolled in their legacy program which has a maintenance fee due to its legacy status.

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