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Well Israel is a US ally that serves US interests, namely it is by the Suez canal one of the busiest shipping lanes on earth. One could argue that there is a lot of political support for Israel in the US but it really comes down to geopolitical interest.

The others, Russia is a US adversary as it seeks to challenge the US order without Russia in it. Iran is a geopolitical adversary, simply because Saudi Arabia is a US ally - enemy of enemy is friend. China is on that fine line between adversary and competitor but definitely not an ally.

So of course its not a big deal. The US knows Israel needs US support to maintain security along the canal and broader med.

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> Well Israel is a US ally that serves US interests, namely it is by the Suez canal one of the busiest shipping lanes on earth. One could argue that there is a lot of political support for Israel in the US but it really comes down to geopolitical interest.

If Sisi blows up Suez, USA is much more better off! =D And if he blows up Tiran, even better — they will have to buy US oil too.

That's more "geopolitical" for ya

>Is Sisi blows up Suez, USA is much more better off!

Don't think so. Europe (and Nato/USA by extension) would have a very big problem.

They just have to buy stuff from the US then, and not from China.

Interesting. I thought that Europe is depending on the Gulf for its energy, but it turns out that it is Russia. But I guess they don't want to exclusively depend on Russia, so there must be some diversification via the Suez canal.

Interesting what will happen to geopolitics, in the event that Europe turns carbon neutral (if that ever happens)...

https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/cache/infographs/energy/bloc-2...

"The stability of the EU’s energy supply may be threatened if a high proportion of imports are concentrated among relatively few external partners. In 2019, almost two thirds of the extra-EU's crude oil imports came from Russia (27 %), Iraq (9 %), Nigeria and Saudi Arabia (both 8 %) and Kazakhstan and Norway (both 7 %). A similar analysis shows that almost three quarters of the EU's imports of natural gas came from Russia (41 %), Norway (16 %), Algeria (8 %) and Qatar (5 %), while over three quarters of solid fuel (mostly coal) imports originated from Russia (47 %), the United States (18 %) and Australia (14 %)."

But that whole definition of friends of foe you've given is ridiculous though.

Russia is trying to resist US bullying and european expansionism near its border, Iran revolted against US-selected dictators, and China, the largest country on Earth, doesnt even understand why the US makes any rule in the first place.

I think this inflated US self importance is one of the biggest danger to world stability. This way to see everyone not immediately showing its ass to be sodomized to be an "adversary" is insane.

Israel by your definition very much became an adversary: they wanted to monitor and control US elected officials to guide policies towards its interest. I dont think the "Suez canal" should be more important than the soul of the american democracy, but that, you dont seem to care as much about :D

This explanation is very poor. At their core countries have no feelings, there is no ill will or true adversary. There is a current interest for your people and economy. It is very much in Russia's interest to annex Ukraine, it has nothing to do with US bullying, etc. If Saudi Arabia were not a US ally the Iranian government would find no reason to really look at the US as a foe. Iran and Saudi Arabia have a balance of power to dominate the middle east and Saudi Arabia (with the help of the US) stands in the way of that, and that is why Russia helps Iran to counterbalance that. Historically Iran and Russia do not have alignment in their interests otherwise.

I suspect you see the world this way because you basically 'stand where you sit', but you have to look at it from the point of view of the other side and where people stand where they sit there too. I.e if you were born & raised & were wealthy/vested etc on the other side would your opinion flip. Your opinion should flip, and then of course with both opinions against each other it ends up becoming about having more power, having alliances and playing cards right.

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