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> So true and not mentioned enough by the media.

This is nonsense. The topic has been in the news almost from the beginning of the crisis. The government is being constantly criticised for that. Why do you people repeat this? It's a lie.

The fact that this topic is now being used by anti-vaxxers to cloud their anti-social behaviour and shift the growing anger of the vaccinated population away from them is ridiculous.

There are two issues here and stacking hospital beds and personal would not make anti-vaxxers better in any way.

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Not getting vaccinated is not antisocial, assuming that those people take care otherwise.

The only people which exhibit antisocial behavior are those that don’t care about protecting themselves and others from infection. Wearing a mask, avoiding meeting others and getting tested is just as valid as getting a vaccine. Perhaps more, because those that do get vaccinated (at least among my acquaintances) seem to wrongly assume that the vaccine is enough and don’t take any other measures except what they must (masks). So they’re meeting in groups, going to restaurants without getting tested, etc.

> Not getting vaccinated is not antisocial, assuming that those people take care otherwise.

Take care like what? Be locked up for years and not meeting anyone? Because everything else is much more risky than just taking the damn jab and stfu about it.

Also: those people who still are unvaccinated are mostly conspiracy nutjobs and don't give a damn about the rest of the population around them so it's quite obvious they wouldn't give a damn about "taking care".

For someone that's unvaccinated, on the young side that works from home and doesn't (actually can't) go to bars/restaurants/etc the risk is already low. They can only get infected outside or while meeting friends.

How do you know they're nutjobs? Everyone I know that's unvaccinated are normal people. This is just what the media and politicians are saying without providing any proof.

Why are the vaccinated so threatened by the non-vaccinated in Germany? Why the anger? Why the fear?

This is sadly very typical behavior at this point. You don't have to fear unvaccinated people, the protection you get is from the vaccine alone. What you might want to fear is a triage for which healthcare funding is solely responsible. Perhaps unvaccinated take up more beds, I am not really sure we can trust the data though because there will be insane political pressure to keep that on the message.

I hope blaming people not at all involved in current miseries becomes a popular sport again.

Have you been locked up somewhere for the last 2 years or are you trolling me?

Not locked up. My wife, and most of our friends are either RNs, MDs, PAs, etc. We've had COVID. Now my wife is dealing directly with people who are dealing with adverse reactions to the vaccines they took (many of them nurses and doctors themselves experiencing neurological symptoms continuing for months and months at a time, and not allowed to speak about it for fear of losing their licensure). I only ask because it seems unreasonable to me to fear a virus that only meaningfully impacts .3% to .5% of your population. So, why not answer? Why are you afraid of the unvaccinated?

This is utter conspiracy bullshit. Neither would anyone lose their license about reporting side effects nor are those in any way so prevalent that your wife would be dealing with multiple amounts of them nor are they in any way close to as severe as the effects of COVID and long COVID.

You're lying and the fact that you seriously think any sane person would believe this is both hilarious and sad as it's a very beautiful example of this covidioten movement we have to deal with.

You broke the site guidelines egregiously in this thread and crossed well over the line where we would ban an account. Not only that but you have a long history of doing this.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25961423 (Jan 2021)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21161447 (Oct 2019)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19471378 (March 2019)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18012949 (Sept 2018)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17863013 (Aug 2018)

Not only that but it looks like we've had to ban you in the past. All this is seriously not cool, regardless of how right you are or feel you are.

I'm not going to ban you right now because it doesn't look like you've been doing it recently, but please review the rules and stick to them from now on, because if you keep doing it, we're going to end up having to.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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