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1) Google is better at AI, for example let's take this sloppy search: "some joke where you can't tell if it is serious or joke"

It is called Poe's law, and Google returned it at #4. Bing or Duckduckgo don't have a clue...

2) They have a years of user's data, like for specific term, they see what users clicked most, so they see which results were perceived as most relevant. It is hard to catch up if you dont have such data.

3) They developed anti-spamming tools during the years of fighting against SEO-spammers.

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> Google is better at AI, for example let's take this sloppy search: "some joke where you can't tell if it is serious or joke"

My problem there is that I don't expect or want my search engine to do that. The counter case is where I remember a quote from and article and want to find the article. Old Google would help me find matching text and I could quickly find the original article. Current Google will try to interpret the text and give me some nonsense based on that.

AI has ruined other Google features... the "search by image" feature now analyzes the image, returns a generic tag like "woman", and shows me the wikipedia article on women as the first result.

Old search by image had tineye like functionality and you could find the source of images.

> 1) Google is better at AI, for example let's take this sloppy search: "some joke where you can't tell if it is serious or joke"

> It is called Poe's law, and Google returned it at #4. Bing or Duckduckgo don't have a clue...

Interesting, I was looking for a good benchmark like this. For me Google returned it at #5 with an image/related terms carousel before it which places it physically more around #7 on the page. Brave Search (never tried it before today) puts Poe's Law at #8. So Google is still better.

But the other results are mostly worse (IMO) on Google. Here are the first 8 results:

- 175 Bad Jokes That You Can't Help But Laugh At - Reader's (rd.com)

- 57 Hilarious, Silly Jokes No One Is Too Old to Laugh At (bestlifeonline.com)

- 145 Best Dad Jokes That Will Have the Whole Family Laughing (countryliving.com)

- Sarcasm, Self-Deprecation, and Inside Jokes: A User's Guide (hbr.org)

- Poe's law - Wikipedia (wikipedia.org)

- Managing Conflict with Humor - HelpGuide.org (helpguide.org)

- 175 Bad Jokes That Are So Cringeworthy, You Can't ... - Parade (parade.com)

- Encouraging Your Child's Sense of Humor (for Parents) - Kids ... (kidshealth.org)

And here are the first 8 results from Brave Search:

- phrase requests - Is there a word for "pretending to joke when ... (english.stackexchange.com)

- Joke - Wikipedia (wikipedia.org)

- “Are you joking or serious?” – The Caffeinated Autistic (thecaffeinatedautistic.wordpress.com)

- How do I tell when people are joking or being serious? (reddit.com/r/socialskills)

- be a joke | meaning of be a joke in Longman Dictionary of (ldoceonline.com)

- Quote by Ricky Gervais: “If you can't joke about the most (goodreads.com)

- How can you tell if someone is joking with you or not? (quora.com)

- Poe's law - Wikipedia (wikipedia.org)

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edit: I did not count to 8 correctly the first time. Fixed that.

The Brave results though seem to contain “good sites” whereas the Google results are content mill blogspam. The exact placement of Poe’s Law is somewhat less important.

I agree. I switched to Brave Search after running this test.

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