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Overall I agree with you, however on that last note: iOS has let you delete pretty much whatever you want for a while now. I just deleted the news app from my iPhone to test this out, successfully deleted. Not just removed from the home screen, removed from the phone.

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Siri, though... Is still not even possible to permanently disable globally?

Anecdotally, did not have Siri get auto reenabled after system updates in the past few years. Last month after retiring from backup new phone didn't get it reenabled either. At some point I had to go to settings to enable push-to-talk-to-Siri because it's useful.

The problem is that still for newly installed apps, it auto-enables “let Siri learn from how you use this app”.

It’s easy to forget whenever you install a new app.

The flag has no effect if Siri is disabled, as far as I know.

That last note was about macOS, not iOS.

Whoops! You are correct and it looks like OP is right. I am unable to delete the News app from macOS.

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