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Why do I get the feeling that if the state is China, then it won't get reported as such. I assume their supply chain is more important.

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China has their own iCloud servers and keys, from what I understand they're happy enough with that.

Also if the state if USA...

https://www.apple.com/legal/transparency/us.html

Contains the canary: “To date, Apple has not received any orders for bulk data.”

that appears to only be connected to requests under those specific acts.

Otherwise, given their involvement in the PRISM program [1] I don't see how we can take that canary seriously.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_(surveillance_program)

The specific acts include FISA requests.

Could also be weasly wording here. They can still truthfully make that statement even if Apple themselves have decided to be pro-active and decided to give out bulk data without receiving any orders before. As the Snowden leaks showed, we should be really careful about how we read the words from large companies about data.

True. They also could be part of the conspiracy to make people sick with 5g so that bill gates can inject microchips into people through the vaccines.

After all, they haven’t denied it!

Difference between the conspiracy about making people sick with 5G vs companies helping NSA and other US government entities to spy on people, is that we have evidence of the latter happening, while nothing about the former.

We have evidence of em radiation causing health problems, just not 5G.

> even if Apple themselves have decided to be pro-active and decided to give out bulk data without receiving any orders before

We have zero evidence if anything like this happing.

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