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I'm a little fuzzy on the exact story of cloudfoundry.

It may just be lack of business level pricing, but I find the options they present confusing, not illuminating.

I have clients who are scared off of possible lock in with stuff like GAE, but would love something that seems quite close to a cloud foundry based backend, I'm just not 100% on what they do provide, and how they make their money.

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That is where AppFog steps in and makes things clear - http://blog.phpfog.com/2011/08/25/appfog-reveals-cloud-found...

I understand what AppFog does. I don't understand what cloud foundry does. Are they the same people?

I get what the tech does. I don't get what the support, reliability, chance to be in here 5 years, etc stories are.

Oh that's it: I just finally figured out that this is a VMWare owned project, not a startup. Duh

Yes it is, and we aren't going away any time soon. :) We'll more than be here in five years.

It's not very transparent that's where the money comes from. It's featured on your web page, but took me awhile to understand this was a way for you to sell more virtualization projects to people.

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