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when I learned the magic letters LTSB, I was finally able to see the decent OS hiding under all the bloat Win10 has foisted on top of it

hope there will be a similar version for Win11

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Challenge with that is you lose access to a bunch of “nice-to-haves” that enable you to use Visual Studio or play games due to missing dependencies. LTSB/C is great for isolated environments that are somewhat frozen in time, but for consumer scenarios those can be full of gaps.

that's interesting, my primary (and only, really) use-case for windows is gaming. i only get games through Steam and they're mostly post-2010 titles, hoping thats the reason i havent run into dep issues yet

my motivation wasn't blocking telemetry or whatever, I just needed to squeeze every single frame out of my aging rig, and dove down the rabbit hole of optimizing win10 starting with LTSB

i had to jump back to win10 pro after a failed migration to LTSC, but i'm constantly looking for an excuse and will probably go to win11 only if there's a similar route (and then maybe even gladly :) )

Have you given proton/Steam on linux a try?

Not OP, but last time I tried (1-2y ago or so) it "worked" but had severe performance issues, animation lag, input lag, etc. I played a bit with it using Grim Dawn (a diablo like action rpg).

Don't know if there were significant improvements since then.

I'd imagine its improved since then, especially with Steam touting a Linux handheld.

I need to find a spare SSD and time/energy so I can dual boot and try it out on a "regular" system.

i have heard good things, i'll try it before reaching for win11 :)

I use LTSC for gaming and haven't had any issues. What's broken with Visual Studio?

As far as I'm aware, Microsoft are planning to continue with the LTSC versions for the foreseeable future. But I don't think it would be suitable for a home user - I'm not even sure how a home user can get hold of it? I'd love to go back to Windows 2000 - in fact there was a post on here the other day about running it in Docker on Linux!

get a hold of the software? iirc the Windows 10 evaluation isos were available on the website, hopefully Windows 11 will follow soon https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/evaluate-windows-...

get a hold of the license? for ltsb/c there were a few reddit threads and a few key resellers, but the instructions seemed to change every few months :(

I have even better word Ameliorated

https://ameliorated.info/

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