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Supporting creators?

This always comes back. It's supporting creators as much as the pennies creators get on Spotify. Only creators with millions of views make money. The rest, if you want to support them, you use alternative channels for that. The main profit maker is Youtube in any case.

That's not true. YouTube gets 45% of the money your videos generate and you get 55%. If a viewer buys a YouTube subscription then 55% of the price of that subscription gets shared among the channels that the viewer watches.

Subscriptions are not the same as Premium. Paying for YouTube Premium basically does nothing to help creators, so you have the extra layer of Subscriptions to individual channels and YouTube get you twice by expecting you to ALSO pay for Subscriptions.

No, YouTube premium revenue is also shared to the creator. As a creator you even get a breakdown of how much you earned from ads and how much from YouTube premium.

I actually forgot that YouTube had rolled out the Join button. You get 70% of the revenue of the Channel Membership (join button). YouTube gets 30%.

Any source for this?

>Under YouTube’s standard revenue-sharing terms for YPP, partner channels keep 55% of the money generated from ads on their videos.

https://variety.com/2021/digital/news/youtube-partner-progra...

Yeah exactly. I hate ads and 15$ is nothing to me. I'm not a poor college student anymore.

> I hate ads

Then you should definitely use Vanced. It eliminates sponsored parts within videos, which are not removed even if you pay for youtube red.

Side note, what’s the etymology of ”Vanced”? Is it meant to hint at “advanced”?

They are so anti-ad that they even removed the ad from their own app's name.

How does it manage that? Crowdsourcing?

Yes, people click a button to indicate start and end of sponsored segments in a video. Those time markers are sent to a DB, and every subsequent viewer will use that to skip the ad portion.

that is one horrific way to guarantee the content creators you enjoy don't get money.

If content creators don't provide ways for paying them besides ads then that's on them.

no, it's not on them, it's on you for choosing to take money out of their pocket. They have chosen the monetization revenues that they are comfortable with, circumventing the way people make money while watching their content is highly unethical. You don't show up to a local course or theatre production and use a fake credit card because you dislike the fact that they use visa.

adblocker? exception being mobile..

Ublock origin + Firefox seems to block ads on mobile fine for me, the mobile browser interface to youtube does leave something to be desired though.

NewPipe on Mobile all the way

I only use a phone for watching stuff if I don't have a monitor or laptop around. That said newpipe is fantastic when mobile is the only available platform.

Anything you’re aware of for iOS?

Yup, I was surprised when I found out it had Sponsorblock integration. Immediately ditched Youtube Vanced in favor of Newpipe at that moment.

YouTube Vanced also has it integrated btw. You have to enable it in your settings

I'm aware. I simply prefer Newpipe because it has roughly the same functionality, is more lightweight and is open-source (+ it's on F-Droid so I can easily update it along with all my other apps).

YouTube Vanced. It's the YouTube app with an ad locker built in.

Brave browser also blocks ads.

And TV

Not my problem to solve.

Most people who post more than once a year seem to have a Patreon or something set up.

So many better ways than funnelling your money through Google.

The Patreon or buying merch route doesn't really work for wide scale though. I can do that for a handful of the very top channels I watch regularly but I can't chip in a buck a month for all 400ish channels I'm subscribed to. Supporting a few creators is easy but giving a trickle the a wide field is kind of the sweet spot for ads.

It'd be really nice to have a way to say spread say $10 a month among the channels I watch, with maybe some options to weight towards smaller channels too.

Like if Humble Bundle and Patreon had a content creator baby together.

Yeah a way for me to not pay much, but still more than my measly ad views would be to a creator, without individually giving them a few pennies every month or a bit at the end of the year. A bit problem is this kind of micro payment is expensive to process unless you can aggregate them at the scale of a platform.

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