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If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.
(We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29164184.)
furthermore, it is totally normal to have a value system and then take efforts to make material reality reflect my value system. if a lot of people agree with me, it might even happen, maybe even against the will of people who disagree and hold a different value system.
all people do this. real anti-universalism and your faux abstinence are both in fact just another kind of value system within this ecosystem.
it's true that a value system does not have to be rational to dominate, but that is not an argument in your favor, it just emphasizes the necessity of aggressive activism and action against racists and their exposed weakness of irrationality.
in closing, i highly value the destruction of things that i think are morally and ethically wrong. you can't fault me for having a different value system that demands i act against my enemies...
for the other readers, this faux anti-universalism is a common neoreactionary talking point designed to subvert a weak conception of cultural diversity, by portraying oppressive policies as respectable cultural disagreements. i would encourage yall to recognize it when it appears. anti-universalism has utility, but this is a perversion.
This logic right here is the antithesis to true rationalism. You act as though your reason is more sound than someone elses simply because you deem your ways as the "ultimate" way. A Muslim in Pakistan may not consider your form of justice as the same as a Sikh in Suriname. You just jump to conclusions that any affront to your rationality is an attack on values of "goodness for mankind" as a whole. It's absolutely no different than a religion. So while you may not be a Muslim, you may find many Islamic teachings abhorrent. But to certain Muslims, they see you as an infidel or as the heathenous one who is striving from a path of moral goodness.
This is exactly why western liberalism is such an affront to the world over. It is filled with too many pompous white people who think that because they became successful in this system, they can extend their white savior complex to others by force. Simply through justification that they believe they hold the keys to true morality.
Western liberalism is no different than the Catholic Church in the middle ages. Constantly abusing the witchhunt of morality upon others. Incessantly purporting that nobody else holds the keys and that any questioning of the belief is heresy.
Just because it goes against modern cultural ways of thinking does not make it wrong. You're then asserting Western ideology is the superior way of life also implying all others are inferior. You judge people just like priests in the Spanish inquisition, but instead of Christianity, you use "Western Thought" as your religious motive to criticize other means of thinking. If racism did not garner any success for peoples, those people would not be successful. Yet here we are. I'm not advocating for it because I'm not a moron. But I am saying that it on a sociological level is beneficial at certain times. Pretending that your "holier than thou" mentality while not having lived in those times/areas is truly the epitome of Western liberalism. You like to be the white savior but forget people are animals at the end of the day.
Jesus...I mean even Anthony Bourdain had an episode in Haiti where they bought food for a bunch of people and it erupted into chaos. He even commented about the very thing I'm talking about with people being animals. You put scare resources and ways of life on the line, and people will revert back to their same old primitive ways. Why do you think the Western world has fantasies about things like "The Purge" or "Survivor?" Because they're impervious toward acting tribalistic? No it's because it's a basic fundamental part of who we are.
I'm sick of the same old, predictable reactionary rhetoric: Attack, and if that doesn't work, attack harder. Throw more and more at the 'enemy' (because they are your enemy) until they quiet down. It's speech as a weapon, as an object to throw (verbally, until some people grasp the tactic and attack physically), not as meaning.
Take a break, a deep breath. Life doesn't need to be so hard and traumatic. People live happily and peacefully, cooperate and build communities together. Hate and anger are just foreign imports, with no place or need, a complete loss. Give them up, and I promise you that you won't miss them and that life will suddenly feel immeasurably lighter.