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> crushes AMD's Ryzen 9 5950x—even multithreaded.

> they're faster than AMD's latest Ryzens on both single-threaded and most multithreaded benchmarks

They prove how silly their headline is in the second sentence. This is screaming "biased".

That has been the case with every site I looked at, its full of Intel shilling, they compare a CPU that is many times as expensive as AMD, see its got a slight edge with way higher power usage and declare the Intel processor the winner.

The 12900K MSRP is $589, the AMD 5950X MSRP is $799.

Is MSRP relevant? Does the Nvidia 3080 Ti MSRP matter in the real world?

Where is it $589? Its sold for $1,426.45 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09FXDLX95 and the 5950X is $749 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0815Y8J9N/ so the Intel is much more expensive in the real word than MSRP and the AMD is slightly cheaper.

CPU prices are usually much closer to MSRP except perhaps right at launch. You can put a 12700K or 12600K in your bag at Newegg right now at ~MSRP+$20, and you were able to do that for the 12900K Newegg pre-order last week. The 12700K at $449 on Newegg right now is some excellent value you have to admit (same P cores as 12900K, 4 less efficiency cores) any way you look at it, and the 12600K even more so.

Claiming that the Intel CPUs are "many times more expensive" than the AMD comparables is just wrong.

If you want that CPU you’ll have to pay much more than MSRP, and the MSRP is higher than the real world price you can get the AMD for. Using historical prices with pre order prices that nobody can get now is a dishonest way to reflect cost. MSRP is a useless representation in this case and for GPUs.

Edit: https://www.bestbuy.com/site/intel-core-i9-12900k-desktop-pr... Never mind found it for less here, wonder why it’s so much on amazon.

Because the Amazon price is some random reseller, not Amazon itself. I wouldn't be shocked if the Amazon seller doesn't even have a CPU to ship.

The seller is not random its the Intel store.

>Visit the Intel Store

>Price: $1,320.00

Today is launch date. It's natural that there are less stocks (and only scalpers remain). I tend to see Ryzen scalped than Intel, partially thanks to Intel makes massive amount of CPUs.

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