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Any clue what the browser compatibility is like, and how well it holds together in older browsers?

All they say is "only modern browsers in mind" -- but I see no details about that.

If it holds together sans pretty effects that's fine.

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Not so good in IE8. All the message gradients are royal blue and functionality like the drop down doesn't work at all.

Such a shame. That will rule it out for a lot of developers.

For all your designers and front-end developers: there is a real need for something like this. Have a look through the weekendhacker archives and look at how many developers ask for design help. Templates on sites like themeforest are often only suitable for basic crud/admin apps or require so much customisation it's easier to start from scratch. At the other end of the scale you have a variety of frameworks and boilerplates which are great from a technical perspective but do little to help aesthetically challenged developers like me.

What we need is something in between. A library of pre-styled css 'components' that look good and support the most significant browsers. Similar in principle to Nicole Sullivan's OOCSS but with a greater range of visual styles. I'd pay significantly more than the cost of a themeforest template for a component library that managed all the cross browser issues for me and I'm sure others would too.

This won't fix all of your problems, but I've found it pretty useful. It seems to degrade gracefully too.

http://css3button.net/

Actually from IE it just puts a big IE logo with a red X through it up on the screen. Arrogant and useless.

I suppose many incompatibilities could be fixed simply with CSS3 PIE [1]. I've been using in a few projects now, and the results are very positive. It rarely happened that the end results was bad.

[1]http://css3pie.com/

Screenshot in IE8 by @jdalton: http://cl.ly/3S1S1V3X282T0w3K3q1z

They have an open bug about it, it sounds like they'll work on it.

https://github.com/twitter/bootstrap/issues/15 Give some love to IE7-8

Fixed now fwiw! IE7+ supported! :D

that's embarrassing!

That's disappointing. Someone needs to fork this and make it at least look reasonable in IE8 and preferably at least visible in IE7.

Yup, we know we need to make that clearer, and fix the issues of IE8 and IE7. We'll get to that ASAP!

Yes, please. And thank you. The reality is that IE8 (and probably IE7) are widely used and lack of support is a non-starter. And from what I've seen, some of the gaps looks reasonably fillable.

And to nit-pick, can you make the drop-downs a bit less fancy?

IE6 isn't very good either, http://yfrog.com/h28bmvp but i get the feeling its better than IE7 and IE8 from the screenshots people post in here

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