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In the context of prevention of hospitalization, why is the article talking about "boys" and not children in general?

It certainly reads very oddly. But from the linked article, it seems risk of myocarditis is what researchers were looking at when they did that modeling... "In older boys and young men, the vaccine has been linked to myocarditis. It has occurred in somewhere around 1 in 10,000 boys and men between the ages of 16 and 19 who received a second dose, though estimates of the risk vary."

Some studies suggest that the risk of myocarditis/pericarditis among vaccinated young boys is higher than their risk of hospitalization due to Covid. The fact that this is even a possibility, and the data on it is changing so rapidly, should give everyone pause and ask what's really going on. Is it for the public good, or is it for pharma profits?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/10/boys-more-at-r...

That is at odds with previous studies, assumes you’re looking at a very short time horizon for getting Covid and negating beyond that entirely, and ignores that myocarditis is treatable as a side effect.

Given there’s a pandemic going on that’s resulted in massive casualties, assuming this is only being done for pharma profits doesn’t pass Occam’s razor.

How does it not pass Occam's razor? A large pharma corp, known for sacrificing morals in the name of profit in the past[1], wouldn't do it again?

The pandemic has indeed caused casualties, but casualties amongst the population in question here (children and teens) is very low. Pfizer's own 6 month efficacy study shows total deaths amongst vaccinated and unvaccinated are statistically insignificant, with unvaxxed dying more of covid, and vaxxed dying slightly more of myocarditis and other heart-related issues[2].

[1]: https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-announces-...

[2]: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.28.21261159v...

> vaxxed dying slightly more of myocarditis and other heart-related issues[2]

Your link actually doesn't say anything about people dying due to Myocarditis following vaccination. Do you have any other source for that?

Sure, it’s in Table S4 of the supplementary material.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/medrxiv/early/2021/07/28/202...

Here’s a TLDR of cardiac-related deaths in the study:

Arteriosclerosis: 2 vax, 0 unvax

Cardiac arrest: 4 vax, 1 unvax

Cardiac failure: 1 vax, 0 unvax

Hemorrhagic stroke: 0 vax, 1 unvax

As you said, no myocarditis (my bad), but that’s a well-known side effect for younger people, which this study does not target.

Because the largest risk anyone has found with the Pfizer vaccine is of myocarditis in teenage boys.

In the adolescents trial, myocarditis was only observed in male patients.

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