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I'm a very big fan of the São Paulo approach, just ban indoor smoking everywhere, period. The only places you are allowed to smoke are inside a dwelling or out in the street (with the caveat that there must be a clear view to the sky). Cigarettes are still cheap, but unwanted smog doesn't bother me anymore.

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Isn't this how it already works in the US?

No, many bars still allow smoking.

>No, many bars still allow smoking.

Where, exactly, is that the case?

I've traveled all over the US and haven't been in a bar that allowed smoking indoors in at least 15 years. And as a smoker, I would definitely notice.

Edit: As kube-system pointed out[0], there are a bunch of places that don't have indoor smoking bans. Although the Wikipedia[1] link they provided does say that ~80% of American live in a place with some restriction on smoking indoors. I stand corrected. Thanks kube-system!

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29003693

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_smoking_bans_in_the_Un...

All of the south except for NC has no state bans on smoking in bars, although many major municipalities ban it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_smoking_bans_in_the_Un...

Specifically I've been to bars in Tennessee and Florida in the last 8 years that allow smoking inside, as well as a diner in Kentucky that still had a smoking section until a few years ago.

Mostly pool hall sort of places I'd imagine.

Really? I did not know anywhere allowed indoor smoking. There are even states that have banned smoking in hotel rooms.

Also exactly how it works in UK - no smoking anywhere indoors.

We'll call this the "California in 1998" approach.

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