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My guess is that they carved out that real estate so they can cram more stuff like FaceID in there later, or just have room for camera stuff.

Personally I think it's great, and I'm ecstatic to see the touchbar go. I already have an M1 mini, but I'm going to pick up one of these laptops soon. Well worth the wait.

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It's magical how Apple apologists point to the completely arbitrary and unnecessary design fault and opine about what great things the masters might be planning for the future.

What we have here is a laptop with a missing chunk of its screen. How anyone can "think it's great", I can't even.

Look at a competitor such as the dell XPS 15: https://www.dell.com/en-us/member/shop/laptops/15/spd/xps-15...

Note the top bar with webcam, and the wasted space to the left and right. That’s two large chunks of screen missing which the Apple laptop has. How can anyone buy a laptop with this much wasted space!

The images weren't loading on the dell site but I googled images. I don't see a lot of wasted space on the left and right. Looks like about 4mm of bezel at a guess. I wouldn't complain about that. Also it's more than $1k cheaper than the Apple, isn't it? Very nice that it's available with an OLED screen as well. OLED > size to me.

I wouldn't buy Apple anyway, but before you ask why I care, it's because their idiotic trends tend to trickle into other brands.

I won't buy a phone without a headphone socket, and I won't be buying a laptop with a chunk out of the screen either.

By left and right I meant “left and right of the webcam” - the top bezel. Apple decided to make that screen

The bezel at the top looks fairly narrow on the XPS15. The Macbook one is thinner but still Apple didn't make the whole XPS15 bezel into screen.

I'm not a MacOS guy, but I always maximize/fullscreen my windows.

We can agree to disagree, I hate the notch and you don't.

I'd get a rectangular OLED screen with a 2mm thicker bezel over an IPS with a notch any day of the week.

I have a notch in my phone screen and it sucks.

It's literally of no consequence. I wouldn't say I prefer it, but why not just look at it as two bits of screen added vs a bit removed? You can black out those pixels if it's that upsetting and your problem is solved.

I'll just look at it as another Apple product that I won't purchase, thanks.

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