Sorry, I don't buy that this happens with any kind of frequency in the 21st century United States, such that a person could reasonably expect this to happen to them. Do you have more than ambiguous innuendo to back up this claim?
Sorry, I don't buy that this happens with any kind of frequency in the 21st century United States, such that a person could reasonably expect this to happen to them. Do you have more than ambiguous innuendo to back up this claim?
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rough_ride_(police_brutality)
Oh sorry that one left evidence, are you asking people to prove something without evidence?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rough_ride_%28police_brutali...
A practice so frequent it has a wiki article.
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/chavis-carter-comm...
Oops, that one is a "suicide".
I've no doubt that there are bad cops out there. Probably more than a few. But I don't think it's helpful to portray the entire profession that way, even if they do bring a lot of the bad PR on themselves by how they handle the situations where a cop does behave badly.
There are others in the jail for almost 12 years.. here are the stats: https://www.cookcountysheriff.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/09...
The parent commenter was probably referring to this: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=doxxing
Some people may enjoy having their real world identities be separate from their online presence, depending on personal preferences and how security conscious they are about that particular account.
Some communities may or may not also have additional rules about exposing your own identity, or the identities of others, which should be taken into account.
It happens.
Rikers is as much of a violent, torturous, psychologically-toxic shithole as any prison, and people (often teenagers) can spend years stuck there [0].
[0]: https://revealnews.org/article-legacy/for-teens-at-rikers-is...
Looking at the statistics for Cook County Jail, there are a number of unconvicted people who have been in there for almost 12 years waiting to go to trial.
This has happened repeatedly and nobody seems to care.
10 seconds on Google turned up another case from this year.
https://www.keranews.org/news/2021-03-19/north-texas-man-die...
A better reply is: "I am here to state an observation and not to prove anything to anyone since it's not a court room. Believe me if you want, I'll not stick around to find out".
I can't prove anything except say it. And it's your choice whether to believe it.
What's unclear?
Why not stop there?
EDIT: And yes, this absolutely is one of the unfounded claims that can be found all over the internet. Have I claimed otherwise?
I've known such people, yes, three of them. Law-abiding normal people whose only mistake was that they were in a hurry and were slightly rude to the police officers because of it.
Technically, each and every claim of somebody can be disputed to death. That's why I invoked your right to not trust what strangers say on the internet. Still, I thought it was a given that I have some exposure to the claimed phenomena.
Reading between the lines you're saying torture/brutality following arrest for speeding has been the experience of 3 of your friends?
Aside, your combative tone really isn't helping make a useful discussion. Something like "I have no evidence, sorry" would have been far better than attacking people requesting evidence.
Agreed, and I started correcting afterwards. I thought it was super obvious that I am sharing an anecdotal evidence and an opinion. I reacted hostile to claims that I somehow have to prove either of these (and both aren't clear-cut facts).
EDIT: To answer your questions, no, they haven't pressed charges (and it wasn't speeding, it was "a routine check"). They were even let go on the oral condition that they'll not pursue.
Why are we doing this at all? You add absolutely nothing to the discussion, except maybe question if I haven't imagined things.
You're getting salty for being called out and say "I don't care". Fine, you don't care. This, however, is not your personal page, it's a public discussion where claims are challenged. When I reply to your comment, I'm not necessarily replying to "you", I'm contributing to the overall discussion that others read, and make their own conclusions from all of it.
And I don't think there's any reason whatsoever for a dispassionate observer who may not be aware of how things are in the US these days to come away thinking that US cops ubiquitously and habitually torture detainees by beating them.
I'll say again as well: I stated things that are impossible to prove in an internet forum. I've admitted I got no solid proof -- you can just say that you don't believe me and that could have been the end of it.
Why do you continue is beyond me. I already said that I haven't stated a fact. If you think I should not post anecdotal evidence then please, by all means, pester the mods to delete EVERY SINGLE ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE posted here on HN. Let me not stop you.