The 'impossible' crane shot from Soy Cuba (1964) [video]
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The camera was an Éclair CM3 Camiflex, which is a beautiful little camera first built in 1945. There are still some for sale.[2]
[1] https://ascmag.com/articles/flashback-soy-cuba
[2] http://www.visualproducts.com/storeProductDetail02.asp?produ...
> Very soon after we came back to Russia, more than half of our crew died. I survived because I was very young.
The entire article is amazing, it talks about ingenious mechanical solutions created on the spot, hacks to get desired effects, and a team relentlessly perusing their dream.
Incredible and well worth reading in its entirety.
This is misquoted, mistranslated or just plain made up.
It is attributed to "Calzatti", one of camermen. There are two Calzatti (Кольцатый in Russian) - father (Arkadi), born in 1905, and son (Alexander). IMDB lists the latter as a cameraman, but Russian wikipedia page on file list the father as one. Film credits have it at "A. Кольцатый", which can be either. The film is not listed in filmography of the father, so most likely it was indeed the son who was the cameraman.
Then things get muddy. They both appear to have immigrated to the US shortly after and adopted Calzetti as the last name. Then, [1] talks about "Italian camera operator Alexander Calzetti" being the part of the film's great recipe. But a 2004 documentary on creation of Soy Cuba credits Aleksandr Kaltsatyj as himself.
So that's a mess in itself.
Then there's also an interview with the principal cameraman [2] where he speaks about his work, explaining in detail how the shot was made, and he doesn't mention Calzetti even once and repeating that most of the shooting was done by the director and himself.
To top it off the only mention of the mysterious crew plague is that sentence in the GP's acsmag article, derived from a brief interview given to that magazine by Calzetti.
Long story short, I think it's safe to assume that nothing horrible actually happened to the crew upon their return home.
1. https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1995-12-08-951208...
Mikhail Kalatozov has included another impressive shot at the end of his previous work, "The Cranes Are Flying." (Palme d'Or at Cannes 1958) The camera follows the protagonist, then gets seamlessly lifted up by a crane to depict the entire street parading.
While Soviet-era films does not have much exposure in the English-speaking world, there are so many gems, critically and technically. The filmmakers were acutely aware of great filming techniques.
Also check out:
Walking the Streets of Moscow (1964) - B-roll scenery contains another lush reflection of the Moscow waters
Ivan the Terrible (1944/1958) - Eisenstein is an ardent practitioner of the montage, and prefers to static camera shots. However, his compositions are very imaginative, and there is no shot you want to miss. His film also briefly experiments with color, and he exploits colored lighting to emphasize the characters' psyche.
Anything by Andrei Tarkovsky - Tarkovsky is indisputably a master of Russian cinema after Eisenstein. He often shoots in nature, but no director shoots with such rich texture of the mud. His long shots emphasizes the bleakness inherent in the Russian psyche.
The Ascent (1977) - Set in WWII, the film shows the resistance escaping the Nazis covered in snow and panting in the cold. Great snow photography.
Hard to Be a God (2013) - A sci-fi story on the immigration of humans to a different planet, the colonizers inhabit the inhospitable environment. Like Tarkovsky, the slow dragging in the mud conveys the dreary lives.
These are recommendations I came up off the top of my head relating to cinematography, but there are definitely many more to appreciate.
Haven't seen the other movies except The Cranes are Flying. Thank you for those suggestions.
This is one big pile of BS.
It would be really hard to find the psyche you're talking about in everyday artistic content.
As for high art, like Tarkovksy, I saw the same tragic content in arthouse movies from Westrn Europe.
Westerners look at pictures of non-smiling Russians and think they are angry or serious or sad.
There is a picture floating around with three astronauts, an American, a Russian, and an Italian: Big Smile, Soul Piercing Death Stare, Big Smile.
If you are in any way familiar with russians, you understand why, but a lot of westerners just aren't, and completely misread it.
Please stop. If you ever bothered to look at regular people walking on the street you would find exactly the same proportion of smiling or neutral (mostly neutral) faces. When I first came to Toronto I actually paid attention just to that expecting to see this myth - bunch of people walking on the street and smiling. Did not happen. And if you ever bothered to punch "Russian astronauts group" into Google search you will find plenty of smiling faces except when those were taken during some highly official situation.
So yes I am "in any way familiar with Russians" and from that perspective you are at least simply misinformed or a victim of how Western (totally unbiased and objective of course) media represents Russian.
It's not people in the street perhaps that is the big contrast, but in social interaction.
The americans pretty much always smile when they greet you regardless of whether you've met, and do the whole fake "how are you" routine. I've never encountered russians doing that. It's not that they never smile, but that the reasons for smiling aren't quite the same.
It may be a generational thing as well. Russia is a lot less isolated from the west today, so these cultural clashes may be fading away.
I know that can be tough when sensitive places are being prodded, but I don't think anyone is being nasty here. Also, as a bonus, it will make your comments more persuasive.
(One irony, btw, of threads where people argue about national characteristics is that often the arguments turn out to be between people of that background themselves, typically without realizing it. Of course that doesn't give anyone a pass to break the rules, but it does change the frame.)
I do not think I've made any personal attacks here. As for name calling - the post I responded to is way more fitting.
>"Also, as a bonus, it will make your comments more persuasive"
Maybe. I just said what I think about the statement. I do not really care if my opinion persuades anyone.
Please follow the rules if you want to post here.
Why Russians do not smile (2002) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27317859 - May 2021 (481 comments)
What a Russian Smile Means - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17445108 - July 2018 (67 comments)
What a Russian Smile Means - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17381975 - June 2018 (1 comment)
What a Russian Smile Means - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17376212 - June 2018 (1 comment)
Do Russians smile at each other? - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7491944 - March 2014 (1 comment)
Why do Russians smile so little (and Americans so much?) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2375633 - March 2011 (105 comments)
The thing is, if I remember correctly, the habit of smiling in the photos appeared in the 20th century in the US. So it's still not here.
As for public interactions, among Russians the difference is that you have to look at the eyebrows and the forehead, which indicate the person being attentive and welcoming, or relaxed, or tense.
When Russians see Americans have smile with lips and cheeks, but forehead and eyebrows relaxed or tense, they probably can't realize it, but perceive this as "fake".
The funny thing is, in Scandinavia, especially Iceland people tend to show even less signs of being "open" in public interaction. At least, I felt unease at first.
I was recently told that I only smile when I'm talking to a particular person at work. It wasn't hostile, but it did imply that I don't smile "enough" and that I haven't noticed other people smiling more.
Russia has both a culture and an environment.
Do words like родина or отечество have a connotation of an intimate relationship between the people and the land, though?
In English, one synonym for indigenous is autochthonous, supposed to stem from Greek for literally "people arising out of the earth".
When you live in a country for extended period of time and deal with the locals every day on different levels maybe by then you will have grasped it.
Bi Gan's long shots are definitely influenced by Tarkovsky. It's also thematically interesting to see the lives of rural Chinese villages.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKZPgGbUuX0
... well because it's epic! But also because it has a kind of comic-book or perhaps theatric aesthetic. I'm talking particularly of this scene:
https://youtu.be/vKZPgGbUuX0?t=267
Where you see the Great Magisters of the Teutonic knights riding on as their oriflames pass by (edit: also, Prokoviev). The most epic scene I've watched outside of the final battle in the original Conan movie. And while you can clearly see how it was shot, that doesn't detract from how badass it all looks.
I don't think it's possible to create experiences like these with modern techniques, perhaps because the latter are so perfect they leave nothing to the imagination and the emotions of the viewer. I don't think modern audiences can even parse that kind of language anymore :(
If you like Hard to Be A God, you should check out Aleksei German's other films, especially Khrustalyov, My Car! from 1998, which is nominally a comedy film, but plays much more like a surrealist horror film that riffs endlessly on the Kafkaesque paranoia of Stalinist Russia. It would make a brilliant double feature with Iannucci's Death of Stalin from 2017, which was definitely influenced by German's film.
However, as a movie it flopped at the time despite the great technical work. The Soviets completely misread and misunderstood the Cubans and turned into a melancholic poetic piece, that had zero appeal, except maybe for the Soviet team who made it. I mean stuff like the address to "Mr. Columbus" in the intro on how the ships "took away all the sugar and left only tears". It's true figuratively on a level, but it just isn't how Cubans would have put it.
There is a documentary that was made where they interviewed Cubans and the Russians who worked on the film. It's quite fascinating, but I can't seem to find it anymore to provide a link to it.
https://youtu.be/bW22bmSWKXU?t=209
I worked on a shoot two days ago as a drone operator where we couldn't get a drone permit in the conservation park location (raptors nesting at this time of year), even for a few shots 2-5 metres off the ground. The client had a particular shot in mind and literally brought a ladder which we carried a couple hundred metres for the photographer and camera operator to climb.
In this case, the raptors on the cliffs meant that we couldn’t use even a micro drone supervised by a ranger several kilometres away.
(The project here was for a guided coastal walk.)
It’s a hard no to fly a micro drone under a supervision of a ranger, but it’s perfectly legal to pour hundreds of tons of ecosystem-killing chemicals in the ocean for years.
The lecturer wanted to prevent it being helped but eventually gave in. (The turtle wasn't particularly weak, just got a bad break with the shell or caved face of the hole it seemed.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvbqy8FZq8Y
I read somewhere that this is the film Jack Nicholson is most proud of.
> In a DVD commentary, decades later, Nicholson said Antonioni built the entire hotel so as to get this shot.
> Since the shot was continuous, it was not possible to adjust the lens aperture as the camera left the room and went into the square. Hence the footage had to be taken in the very late afternoon near dusk, in order to minimise the lighting contrast between the brightness outside and that in the room.
> The camera ran on a ceiling track in the hotel room and when it came outside the window, was meant to be picked up by a hook suspended from a giant crane nearly 30 metres high. A system of gyroscopes was fitted on the camera to steady it during the switch from this smooth indoor track to the crane outside. Meanwhile, the bars on the window had been given hinges. When the camera reached the window and the bars were no longer in the field of view, they were swung away to either side. At this time the camera's forward movement had to stop for a few seconds as the crane's hook grabbed it and took over from the track. To hide this, the lens was slowly and smoothly zoomed until the crane could pull the camera forward.[Note 1] Then the cameraman walked the camera in a circle around the square, giving the crew time to shut the window bars before the camera returned to look through the window from the outside this time. Antonioni directed the scene from a van by means of monitors and microphones, talking to assistants who communicated his instructions to the actors and operators. [0]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQjTAbt_e58
(ah, my mistake, only the first minutes...)
I wish there were a breakdown as to how these kinds of shots were done using the technology they had at the time.
Edit: This tweet[1] suggests that the camera was being passed around.
[1]: https://twitter.com/indiarama/status/1451251934879387651
Camera man #1 is on the ground. They attach the camera to some sort of pulley which pulls it up the wall. Camera man #2 is on the roof and walks to the room where they're all sewing and then attaches to a second pulley that is suspended from cables running between the buildings (you can see them at the top of the shot).
As for how they executed this shot, there are a lot of possibilities, but I doubt there was a hand off, probably from a person to a cable if so, but in that case they had a poor plan with very good luck.
Never come between a man and his camera!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxb9xzAaYjM (The Raid 2, car chase behind the scenes)
As a small bit of trivia for those who wonder - it has been diligently maintained as a listserv, and a very simple website, because it is actively used by filmmaking crews in active production, which frequently takes place in god-forsaken corners of the earth with extremely limited connectivity. If it's 2am in the desert in Morocco, and you need help on alternate solutions for the the gimbal rig that just crapped out... you need a low-bandwidth way to tap into the collective wisdom. And that sort of active community happens regularly.
https://filmschoolrejects.com/contact-mirror-scene/
"How They Shot the Impossible Mirror Scene in ‘Contact’"
I guess it must have been a result of conscious body movements by the actor or a many-retake attempt to get to a particular "target" pose at a particular point in the run to make the "seamless" transition of shots possible in post. Feels unnatural and forced to me -- and distracts from what could have been a minor mind bending effect as we watch the movie.
The opening of Touch of Evil (1959) is a long tracking shot that is beautifully choreographed:
But probably the most amazing tracking shot I’ve ever seen is the 59 minute continuous shot at the end of Long Day's Journey into Night (2018) which is in 3D, but I’ve only seen the 2D version.
Earlier this year I watched Femme Fatale and the opening has * Double Indemnity* playing on TV which by funny coincidence I had just watched the night before.
I can add the battlefield traversal scene from Children of Men https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjFHqohaHYU which certainly doesn't share Soy Cuba's beauty but makes up for it in other ways.
Uhh... wouldn't Cuba arrest and / or execute a capitalist university student protesting the communist government? Doesn't seem very accurate
* it's a 1964 movie
* it's set in pre-revolutionary times
* the students are arrested and/or shot, respectively
* the students aren't capitalists
* there were widespread protests, just a few months ago, and not everyone was arrested
People do not generally equate fights for or against one's cause, even if the methods are the same.
Here's the full thing but at lower resolution (the audio is muffled and it looks washed out to me), also [NSFW]: https://vimeo.com/172079250
One of Mikhail's uncles served as a General in the Imperial Russian Army, while Georgia was annexed by Russia. Another one was among the founders of the Tbilisi State University.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFkHadvj4DI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSfciVMm5IM
Fun fact: la Haine was filmed in color because the coproductors didn't believe a b&w movie would be a hit
And yet, today, such a shot is still as impossible and very rarely done.
It's a complex shot and there isn't really that big of pay off beyond having done the shot, but it's by no means "impossible", or am I missing something here?
Because it requires imagination. And then careful planning. And then execution.
In the shot, there is a crowd in the streets, there are people on balconies and in the rooms acting in concert with the camera etc.
These days this is offloaded to overworked underpaid CGI artists at a second production unit.