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It's probably bad, the M1 could not get 60fps on WoW so ... When I see Apple comparison I would take that with a grain of salts because the M1 is not able to run any modern game at decent fps.

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My M1 cannot properly without stuttering show https://www.apple.com/macbook-pro-14-and-16/ (esp. the second animation of opening and turning the laptop).

Both safari and chrome

That's because it's actually a series of jpegs rather than a video(!!) - the same happens on my Intel Mac

Are modern games built with Metal? Pretty sure Apple deprecated OpenGL support. Macs have never been gaming computers.

The GPUs in the M1 family of Macs are for “professional” users doing Video Editing, Content creation, 3D editing, Photo editing and audio processing.

MoltenVK is Vulkan's official translation layer to Metal, and doesn't have too much overhead. Combine with dxvk or d3vkd to translate from DirectX—DirectX before 12 is generally faster with DXVK that Windows' native support.

"the M1 is not able to run any modern game at decent fps."

Do you have first hand experience with this? I do . We play WoW on MacBook air M1 and it runs fantastic . Better than my intel MacBook Pro from 2019

"Running fantastic" is what Apple would advertise, but what matters is fps, utilisation and thermals when benchmarking games

Defines fantastic because a 1080ti from 4 years ago run faster than the M1. My 2070 could run wow at 144fps, and it's a 2.5y/o card.

Yet most people can't get 60fps: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhcJzKCcpMQ

Edit: thanks for the dates update

Comparing the M1 to a 1080ti is ridiculous. The 1080ti draws 250+ watts. The M1 draws 10w in the MacBook Air.

In the current market you can buy a MacBook Air (an entire laptop computer) for less than buying just a midrange GPU.

Well Apple compared themself to a 3080m which is faster than a 1080ti.

Apple compared the M1 Max to a 3080m. 4x the GPU cores and up to 8x the memory makes a difference, and it wouldn't be at all surprising to see that their numbers are accurate.

lol, got ‘em

No one has explained what you got wrong, so in case anyone reading this is still confused, Apple compared an M1 Max to a 3080m. An M1 Max's graphics card is ~4x as fast as an M1.

The 1080 Ti was made available in March 2017, so it's 4.5 years old. Not 6.

That’s not great especially because I believe WoW works natively for the M1 and uses the Metal API.

My follow up would be what settings were you playing at?

WoW is not a graphical demanding game even on the highest settings

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