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Is there any competing service that has a model similar to YouTube? I know there's Facebook video, but AFAIK you need a Facebook account to view the videos, which stops a lot of traffic and makes the platform not searchable from Google.

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A lot of Twitch and YouTube personalities I know of are moving over to Nebula and partnering with CuriosityStream.

I wonder if that will make enough money to be successful or if it’s just going to keep burning VC cash to attract creators like Uber does.

Nebula is content creator and Standard owned company with minority stake of CuriosityStream and no VC funding as far as I know.

Ah that’s encouraging.

Facebook also publishes famously misleading engagement metrics to producers. It's lead to a lot of business issues where content creators have gone too heavy into the platform and ended up running out of revenue.

Rumble is making some big waves right now, actually paying uploaders for ads run on their videos and such. It’s still a small fraction of YouTube in terms of viewership though.

It's also a den of right-wing disinformation and propaganda. Not something the average content creator wants to be associated with

That's the tactic, if you ban a group of people from your platform. They search for a competitor, then they can say oh that competitor is full of XYZ undesirable people, you don't want to use them.

YouTube itself use to be the fringe.

https://odysee.com/ is a site I have seen a lot of mainstream people promote.

The problem is actually discovery, it doesn't really matter who sends you bytes it's about users discovering your content, which YouTube has the monopoly.

You might be thinking of BitChute or Brighteon (which literally has QAnon on the front page).

The right-wingers on Rumble are fairly mainstream (and monetizable), like Stephen Crowder, Ben Shapiro, or Donald Trump himself.

I can't tell if this is a joke reply or not

What about the parent comment would indicate a joke?

The grandparent mentioned that Rumble was "a den of right-wing disinformation and propaganda. Not something the average content creator wants to be associated with."

The parent then replied, seemingly to disagree, but then listed several examples of right-wing disinformationists and propagandists, not something the average content creator wants to be associated with, who inhabit Rumble

None of the people mentioned are mainstream.

Regardless of one's opinion of him, it's pretty hard to say that a former president of the United States is outside the mainstream.

And Ben Shapiro's podcast is currently the 7th most downloaded podcast in the US[1]. That also qualifies as pretty mainstream.

[1] https://www.podcastinsights.com/top-us-podcasts/

Their positions are not mainstream. His positions are not mainstream.

I can say plenty of negative things about all of those people, including the disingenuous ways all of them argue their points. But all mainstream means is that they have a large audience. Which all of them do.

I don't know this Crowder person, but Shapiro and Trump are absolutely mainstream. Enough that I, a guy who's not from the US and has no interest in its domestic politics, can get Shapiro memes.

>Is there any competing service that has a model similar to YouTube?

No.

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