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Being a homogeneous ethnostate does wonders for the social cohesion that allows for a society like Japan to work.

Plenty of homogeneous states which don't work. Seems it's not such a great indicator.

Well GP does say allows for such a state, not guarantees.

Well if that's what they meant, then heterogeneous melting pots also allow for advanced societies to work. And ethnocentricity is a shitty indicator for social cohesion.

> Plenty of homogeneous states which don't work.

Plenty? Name five, other than isolated microstate islands. I can think of very few modern homogeneous ethostates.

IQ factor? Japanese are pretty smart.

You are being downvoted but this sentiment is not wrong. See also the nordic countries and this Freakonomics podcast that goes into some detail: https://freakonomics.com/podcast/happiness/ In particular, note Denmark's notoriously strict immigration system.

The key point being that ethnically homogenous societies tend to work well. It isn't guaranteed but it does contribute because everyone is the same or similar. Similar ideals, similar goals and so on. The feeling one gets in these societies is stifling. We have nice things but they are for us, not for you.

Hard to say because while Japan has long been homogenous and had strong social order, the modern level of safety is historically recent.

Not a popular opinion, it seems.

No, it's not. It's a common opinion among white nationalists, but they are a tiny minority and they don't realize how different white people (or any ethnicity for that matter) actually are. If you put a bunch of British Columbians and Texans in a room, you might have ethnocentricity, but you won't have anything close to social cohesion.

This is a bad comparison. "White" is about as informative as "European" or "Indian". It conveys a vague notion of melanin levels and little else. Regions such as Europe or India are so diverse that a Finn and a Spaniard have very little in common. Same goes for a "Country" like India.

Someone from BC and someone from Texas actually have a lot in common - both are from immigrant societies and both speak the same language. Can't say that for someone from Kerala, India and Punjab, also in India.

Thats all fine, but we're talking about white nationalists...they're not exactly nuanced about culture. To white nationalists, whiteness is all that matters, and if we just kicked out all of the non-white people, we could participate in this enthocentric utopian fantasy that they have. Nevermind the fact that almost every ethnostate that has ever existed has had civil wars and irreconcilable differences. Hell, our own country is the result of some members of a homogenous ethnostate moving to get away from that state, and ultimately waging war against it.

Given the interminable arguments they have about "who counts as white" and their racial anxieties I'm sure they're more aware, on average, of the differences between a Texan, and a Californian, or a Scottsman and A Frenchman than those of us who focus on finding what we have in common and being good neighbors.

People are rightly offended by the claim that racial purity is a prerequisite for a cohesive, high-functioning society.

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