This kind of “going public” setup seems ridiculous. It’s like there’s a room behind the curtain with some kind of money laundering or backhanded deals being brokered and the company itself is just a ‘front’ to look busy.
With the latest estimated Q3 production numbers for Tesla they will now have a 1 million annualized rate of car production and it will be growing annually at around 50% for many years to come.
(FYI : The numbers came out, real number is 950' annualized.)
I'm sure there is a place for Rivian if they can execute,- I will not argue that the price of Rivian is right, but I would interject that the marketplace is shifting and dramatically so.
The most reasonable argument is that the stock market does not view the automotive incumbents as competitive against new electric car companies and this shows in the valuation.
The old auto companies have not innovated, and now they are being out innovated. Their market share are in free fall and there is a lot of possibility for startups to grab a share of the market.
Here's the latest from Germany;
Translated quote from VW Brand CEO Ralf Brandstätter;
'It is urgently necessary that a new course is set in Wolfsburg. Future competition with Tesla's new Gigafactory will be brutal. The electric car pioneer sets new standards in car production.. ..For example, a Model 3 is built in 10 hours, more than 3 times as fast as a VW ID.3 in Zwickau. This puts Tesla in another dimension in terms of productivity and profitability'
(The ID series of cars were the supposedly Tesla Killers from VW)
From ;
https://www.businessinsider.de/wirtschaft/kampf-gegen-gruenh...
some more context;
That would explain the panel gaps.
On a more serious note, where I think Tesla is way above the other (old) manufacturers is in software, the Germans especially have treated the software as something extrinsic to building a car until now (for good reason, given the circumstances) but this has changed once EVs came into play, you have to have top-notch software developers and top-notch software execution in order to get everything out of a car battery.
I see what you mean about money floating around. But does it ever reach a point where there is a common sense counter-weight that maybe the latest pets.com is not worth the GDP of a small country.
I think Tesla’s stock is overvalued but I’ve momentum traded it a couple of times (especially when Elon’s tweets seem upbeat a couple of days before earnings are announced). Sure I think I’m buying at inflated prices but I’m guessing I can sell at even more inflated prices.
Ah yes .. the oblivion>reality optimisation the modern world has been gifted. Never ceases to create interesting use cases.
You're smarter than me with trading/finance. I cannot educe much sense from any of it these days - and don't have the kahunas to trade on vibe.
Weirdly, my only finance buddy (buys shares for super companies) actually cautiously observes a company's history and their management before investing in stocks. Maybe that'll become the move again once the asset bubble collpases.