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It's not a great idea to suggest everyone who has come to a different conclusion then you is a cult follower and a bad faith arguer.

That is itself both cult like and in bad faith.

There are probably better ways to structure your arguments for whatever it's worth.

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Ok, it's not possible to have a good faith discussion about covid with someone who does not accept that vaccines save lives.

You aren't after a good faith discussion and the vast majority of people with reasonable knowledge, myself included, accept that in general, vaccines save lives.

Please stop with the cult like behavior.

>the vast majority of people with reasonable knowledge, myself included, accept that in general, vaccines save lives

That really depends where you are located. There are US states where <50% of the eligible population is vaccinated.

Why the qualifier, 'in general?' In what cases does one of the major US COVID vaccines reduce a healthy adult's life expectancy?

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