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I've seen a few posts around saying vapes are about to be banned here in Australia. Have no idea if its true or not.

Still available with a prescription: https://www.smh.com.au/business/consumer-affairs/vapers-told...

Get a dry herb vaporizer and vape loose leaf tobacco. Takes a while to find the combination of temperature and herb that doesn't taste like shit, and it's also not the same as a real cigarette but it does the thing.

You also inhale less matter than with an ecig, so I think it may end up being healthier... but I'm like, the only person I know that does this daily so science may never know.

Totally with you, my intuition is loose leaf pure tobacco is much less harmful and for a while when I still smoked I couldn't stand regular cigarettes, also preferred rolling my own, both for the gesture and the taste.

Nicotine vapes have been banned for about a year here, the stupid fucks in government just love to funnel cash to big tobacco.

Nicotine is as harmful as caffeine, no more, no less. Nobody's going around campaigning against Big Espresso.

That nicotine is fine because it’s no worse than caffeine is a lie I see pedalled unquestioningly by pro-vape folk on the internet all the time. Linking the harmfulness of cigarettes to coffee is an old tactic of tobacco companies and they still use it for vaping. It’s not true.

I never said anything about cigarettes, I was talking about nicotine. Cigarettes give you cancer. Nicotine does not.

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