Nevermind "CSAM" and "right leaning" politics -- I can't even seem to find a place that will host the anti-obesity group that I used to enjoy reading on reddit. (It was removed by Ellen Pao when they cleaned up "hate groups".)
You cant call for violence or show violence, like gore content and terrorist videos do get removed. Everything else is fine (for now).
Download the app from the website not form the stores to avoid googles censorship.
I can't even imagine how many secret services monitor what's going on right on Telegram servers.
I doubt that anyone can have any trust in “secure” and “private” communication service that got banned in Iran only to be unbanned 3 days later. They were not so soft on other big names they banned. The outcome? Telegram is the most popular messaging app in Iran, and no one is searching for anything better. Perfect place to oversee the public.
The thread is about a place where your "offensive" community can be hosted without the owner overlords coming an declare it a hate-group, in case you missed that.
On these other platforms, the users seem to think that, in the name of "free speech" everything is allowed everywhere. So on other platforms that tried to host it, it's full of off-topic posts. The don't respect the rights of a group of people to carve out an area for themselves.
Someone just needs to launch it on their own website, and hope the ISP doesn't pull it, or the DNS provider doesn't refuse to resolve it, etc.
The existence of other groups/channels on telegram with other rules is completely irrelevant. If people are unable to switch between communities and respect the different rules in each then that's their problem and you just remove them.
Maybe you need to sit down and think about if that is entirely consistent.
But the point stands--it's difficult to find a place to host a forum that contains legal discussions that happen to offend the sensibilities of the type of people who run tech companies.
Another day, another person confusing 'free speech' with a private publisher not wanting to publish hate speech.
You're entitled to print what you want, you're not entitled to force someone else to print anything.
Unless you're the surgeon general. Then you can force private companies to publish compelled speech on their alcohol and tobacco products.
IOW: This ancient figure of speech is used precisely to show that the issue is exactly the same old one that has been thoroughly hashed out for centuries.
Do not participate in them. Do not support them. Do everything you can to oppose them.
I was sad that people could be so misinformed/misled, but the subreddit seemed genuinely happy that these people died. That sounds very much like a hate group to me, and I'd like to see it as banned as fatpeoplehate (which has hate in the damn name) was.
It's not about the subject of the criticism, it's how you go about it. These subreddit are toxic hate-pools, they aren't a force for good. They're reveling in the misfortune of others instead of trying to somehow help, and that's what makes them hate groups, not whether or not being fat or an antivaxxer is bad.
And yet Reddit management is ok with it.
The most popular winners of the hermancainaward that you're lamenting the loss of are the kinds of people who would aggressively decline such help, and probably shout at you for offering it.
You may call me a bad person, but I was quietly hoping that Trump died from the pandemic he exacerbated and Bezos' rocket exploded in a blaze of justice. Those people wouldn't shed a tear for you or your family, why would you for them?
There's way too many people on this planet as it is, a couple less loud selfish drains on society wouldn't be too unfortunate.
Karma's probably pretty close to what I mean - for all the workers peeing in bottles toiling in his salt mines, and everybody's cumulative suffering because of the taxes he never paid.
Just because he's been involved in corrupting the system so much that those taxes aren't even demanded doesn't mean he gets out of a karmic obligation to all the people who's work he's built his incredibly narcissistic and tone-deaf space joyride empire on.
Imagine you're in a small tribe on a desert island with limited resources.
Do you think Mr hog-absolutely-everything-so-I-can-joyride-a-giant-dick-that-others-designed-for-me-into-what-can-only-just-be-technically-called-space-so-I-can-now-cringeworthily-call-myself-an-astronaut-without-having-any-actual-skills would be popular in the tribe, or not?
Well, we're all part of a larger tribe on a slightly bigger island with limited resources, and I have some ideas on who I wouldn't mind being seen thrown into the volcano.
And all the more satisfying if there's the added poetic justice of them falling into the volcano themselves because of their own incredibly loud stupidity. So call me a hater if you like.
I'd probably call it tribalism? 20th century had quite a lot of poorer people killing richer people in the name of same.
The billionaires are clearly a hostile, rival tribe stealing our resources.
There are just people, who can be convinced to do unspeakable things by media over a long period gradually activating their vestigial tribalism.
It was just a hate group, stop digging man.
I like your ironic username.