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Does anyone really want to use it outside iOS?

Yes. I actually fell in love with it. I began to learn iOS and Swift because that's the kind of computer I owned.

Along the way I began to learn about how Swift relies heavily on the Objective-C runtime and began to dig in. The flexibility to me is amazing.

Love it. Incremental typed languages are by far my favorite.

Sure. If you want a SmallTalk that you can use to build real apps, ObjC is your best choice.

If you want a Smalltalk that you can use to build real apps, Smalltalk is your best choice.