> hundreds of education partners across the country
Thats different than saying "any accredited institution".
I wonder if it is only low cost educational programs...
Thats different than saying "any accredited institution".
I wonder if it is only low cost educational programs...
CCs or state colleges would be great imo.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/projects/college-mobilit...
Meanwhile there are 900,000+ front line employees at Amazon. Bringing up elite schools in relation to this group is missing the forest for the trees, and frankly insulting to people that worked hard and went to state schools that you'd consider "failures".
It's so funny how the tone of your comment completely changes the meaning. Your tone essentially says "normal people aren't good enough to get into elite schools" which is disgusting and classist. If your tone was slightly different, "normal people aren't often given the opportunity to go to these schools even if they deserve it" you would be saying the same thing (statistically, "normal" people aren't the norm at Harvard).
But, either way, I hate to break it to you... but us peons are just as intelligent, clever, interesting, and motivated as the social elite... we just happened to be born to poor parents by the grace of history and (bad) luck.
I personally believe, as a peon, that nobody deserves to go to a top school because they're eugenicist and classist by design. I have nothing because I went to a shitty state school, and the fact that others have happiness and everything handed to them because they're part of the lucky few is why I have a suicide note ready for when I snap and blow my brains out for being an abject, state school-educated failure.
> However, being a normal person making that absolutely enormous leap happens a non-trivial amount of times
Again, it doesn't. 2k admits. Only people that might be normal are the ones that are affirmative action admits from Wyoming or Alaska.
Do you really think front line employees at Amazon are going to go to Dartmouth? People that worked hard in high school and college like me can't go to Dartmouth. Bizarre to equate that with quality when this is designed to give people opportunities to pay for University of New Hampshire.
There are an innumerable amount of "hard working" students that have all sorts of jobs in our economy. I'm now a 30-something tenured researcher at a world class instution, but at one point I was a 19 year old working swing shifts in a manufacturing plant while attending a world class university... because although I worked hard in high school just like you... I also desperately needed money. It would have been great if my greedy/zealous manager would have paid for my college, I was repairing the electronics and software for him at near minimum wage anyway.
I upvoted because he's correct. There's a staggering amount of denial in this thread. Statistically (and recently https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2019/03/histor...) the trends remain unchanged for Ivy league schools. The competition is high and the prejudices are baked in.
Most of us can't attend "world class universities", we're inherently inferior. The vast majority, actually. So bringing up elite schools in this conversation is both irrelevant and in many cases just self aggrandizing.
I don't know how you twisted what I said into the idea that people from FCs can't go to top schools, but the reality is almost none (and probably close to none) do.
This seems like more of a PR move than anything.
And, community colleges provide a better education than state colleges? Seriously? Do you have any evidence for that position?
I misinterpreted you as saying that Amazon was using a real college as a training program.
If Amazon will pay for "education", and the options are a four year degree or an Amazon training program, I'll take the degree and ignore their training.
Update: this is getting downvoted. I guess many Dartmouth graduates here with ego...
Universities, especially prestigious ones are expensive in the US. But the prestigious ones also happen to have incredibly good financial aid options. The problem is the classist system that makes it difficult for a low-income person to have the CV that lets them get admitted. Paying the rest after being admitted is comparatively easy (both for the rich and for the poor). It is the middle class that is in a bit uncomfortable situation as the financial aid can still have aggressive cutoffs.
It is common for universities to charge a single sum for "full-time" students--students whose credit load is above some threshhold. But, Kansas State, for instance, only lists per credit tuition: ~$320. If you take 16 credits--a pace that could have you graduate in four years--that would be over $5k/semester, about $41k for the most minimal four-year degree.
Boise State charges (in 2021) $4k/semester for full-time students. Is that low cost?
Boston College charges $30k+/semester.
U of Texas costs ~$6500/semester.
If K-State, Boise State, and UT are considered low cost, I think you'll be fine. These all provide a fine education.
That sounds pretty low cost and I would guess the financial threshholds would apply to most of Amazon's front line workers.
Someone I loved was accepted at a school like Stanford with a similar policy. The good news was the entire $50k tuition (10 years ago) was covered, the bad news was that meant $1500 in work study, $6k in scholarships, and $43.5k in student loans guaranteed. Plus $10k for room and board.
The way schools word this is such a dark pattern.
I'm gonna guess that all your numbers represent a single year. Then I have to ask, they only earned $9000 outside of work study during that period? That seems seriously low for a year. Were they prevented from working during the school year?
The school wasn’t as good as Stanford but top 20 and had a similar policy and tuition.
The numbers don’t represent any outside work. The $1500/year was like 8 hours a week doing random university jobs. It possible they could work, but it would be really hard on top of the 8 hours work study and class load.