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Comment by jonas21 | Hacker News Reader

As a user, I'd take that to mean that they wouldn't keep any IP logs unless I turned logging on. I wouldn't expect that they would enable logging on their own.

Interestingly, ProtonMail's privacy policy lists a number of cases in which they may log your IP address permanently (including if you breach their Terms and Conditions). But a request from law enforcement is not one them.

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Use of the service for any “unlawful or prohibited activities” violates the TOS, so if law enforcement has evidence of that (which they may), then PM has a clear right to log IP.

Is that so? I thought, if one violates the TOS, the other side may terminate the service. I did not know they then had the automatic right to then log data suitable for tracking and identification.

A user with the intent to engage in unlawful activities should read the terms of services in full. If that user only reads the homepage of the service, without understanding the implication of each word, and does not bother to review the terms in details, that is on him.

Moreover, I would like to point out that ProtonMail is about encryption of email *content*. It is foolish to expect more from them. They won't protect your identity: law enforcement can know who you are and who you communicate with, but they cannot know the content of your emails (if you recipient uses encryption services as well).

I understand it to mean they can enable IP logging for a mailbox in response to a court order.

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