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>I went to a very white, quite red Virginia public school 30 years ago and nobody ever told me about brown skin being bad.

Then you got very very lucky. It has been an issue for a very long time.

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/apr/09/coloris...

it was a problem long before the modern era.

https://www.naacpldf.org/ldf-celebrates-60th-anniversary-bro...

Preparing kids for the real world seems like a good education strategy to me...

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I am brown and I can’t believe what the western countries are doing with going back to racial segregation days. Instead of teaching everyone to work hard snd accomplish hard things, they are being taught that they can’t achieve hard things because the boogeyman is stopping them. Victimhood doesn’t help kids. Even the most successful black and brown people like Lebron James who achieved what they did via working hard know this but they don’t want to teach that to the kids. It’s mind boggling. Now a days there’s literally no difference between a woke and a racist. Both believe in judging people by their skin color instead of the content of their character.

Relevant comedy skit:

https://youtu.be/Ev373c7wSRg

Got it, acknowledging that racism exists is the same as racism...

I mean it's not like people with ethnic names have to whiten them to get job opportunities.

https://hbswk.hbs.edu/item/minorities-who-whiten-job-resumes...

or home appraisals double when someone conceals their race

https://www.npr.org/2021/05/21/998536881/a-black-woman-says-...

Nope, pointing it out is the racism, let's just not discuss it.

Racism and actual crime gets conflated, and that is a major problem within America.

If someone is the victim of a crime, it should not matter whether that crime was racially-motivated or not. Serve justice, full stop. Don't feed into racial realism.

Things get really bad when it gets twisted to the point of "who cares about this particular crime, RACISM is the problem!" This leads to injustice because focus is shifted from the real crime to an abstract ideological debate. And it happens all the time.

Racism is a problem when it obstructs justice, whether it's Jim Crow laws that are literally racist, or "woke" media grifting that muddies the water with race realism.

We have a new Jim Crow, and it's called protected groups.

>But everyone has a gender! Everyone's gender is protected!

Yes, Jim Crow was separate but equal. No one believed it then, no one believes it today.

Universalism is seen as right wing today which is so backwards really have no idea how we got here.

So your response to a person with brown skin say that their experience doesn't matter? Why doesn't it matter because you read that they where lucky or that you experienced something different?

> … or that you experienced something different?

Surely that makes it 1:1 ? A tie, a dead-heat.

Unless once person's anecdotes count more? Is that what you want?

No I was rather inquiring if it was performative erasure of someones experience or just some kind of jealousy.

I say it from my own personal experience as a light skinned black person, I've seen how the police laser focus on my dark skinned friends and, I've seen the subtle differences in behavior displayed by white people in their presents.

So yes they are lucky to have not experienced it.

I suspect that it’s not luck, but rather than the racism that exists in America isn’t directed at brown people generally, but Black people specifically. And while I’m fully supportive of combatting that, I’m not okay with schools telling my brown daughter that she faces systemic racism that she doesn’t. We shouldn’t project the Black American experience and pedagogy designed around that onto all brown people, which is what we’re on the path to doing. It’s not actually true and we should be truthful with our kids. By 2060, 40% of the country will be Hispanic or Asian. Our overall approach to race issues must accommodate their reality as well.

>By 2060, 40% of the country will be Hispanic or Asian. Our overall approach to race issues must accommodate their reality as well.

That's ok, by then they will be white.

Just like how the grand children of the victims of the holocaust are both white and Nazis at the same time.

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