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> It's absolutely imperative that the US Govt, and the govts of all democracies, recognize and combat this, and take active measures to protect their Chinese citizens.

Agree.

> Democratic governments should probably also look into providing an expedited immigration path for their Chinese citizens' relatives still in China.

Just want to point out that, Chinese spies tried to exploit expedited immigration paths in UK intended for Hong Kongers [1]. I don’t have an easy solution.

[1]: https://www.businessinsider.com/chinese-spies-try-uk-visa-pe...

>Just want to point out that, Chinese spies tried to exploit expedited immigration paths in UK intended for Hong Kongers [1]. I don’t have an easy solution.

Yup, though I'd rather get the innocents out first and deal with any spies later.

The general mistreatment and neglect of whistleblowers makes me think such a policy is unlikely to work.

In this case they would be whistle-blowing against a hostile foreign organization, so I don't think Snowden-like issues would apply here.

> It's absolutely imperative that the US Govt, and the govts of all democracies, recognize and combat this, and take active measures to protect their Chinese citizens.

Yes, but they can't protect the Chinese-mainland-living extended families of those citizens

It's impossible to make a case to right wingers because 2nd generation immigrants tend to be strictly left wing, and more progressive to boot. And imo, as a 2nd generation asian american, they tend to have a more overt racial identity and it doesn't necessarily manifest in a way that leads to a cohesive society. I knew a fair number of other asian americans who strictly saw America as a colonizing force, basically the bad guy. On one hand they're not wrong about the colonizing, but on the other hand it's not exactly a healthy mindset to have about your nation, and more to the point, it's antithetical to the entire right wing political ideology. The strict nationalism of the Chinese works in their favor imo, and the US doesn't have much of a chance in matching it.

> Right-wingers may complain about this, but they have to understand that: 1) historically, subjects/victims of oppressive govts are more likely to be allies of US and other democracies, rather than enemies, and 2) innocent till proven guilty must apply universally.

You are dreaming. In reality what will happen is that the US will realize that there is no shame in being 2nd place.

American exceptionalism is somthing created by the media, in reality phenomenons such as the shifting of the global powers have been happening since forever and are so enormous that they are like the tectonic plates. They can't be stopped or messed with.

It's not a tragedy either, Europe was #1, then it dropped 2nd place and people there aren't exactly running around like chickens with their head cut off.

It's only an issue here on HN and reddit where people love to deeply analyze scenarios that they don't have any real saying on.

The rest of people just live their lives concerned with other and more pressing matters.