That’s not pro or con anything, it’s just the truth that some are having a hard time admitting.
I’m not sure at what point in the last year “we don’t know” became taboo. Maybe when we wrapped unknowns in policy decisions?
EDIT: yes, we have data for that long Covid symptoms especially in severe cases, and suspected in mild cases, my point was that we do not have enough data to make policy decisions based on this. Currently hard to quantify, as the CDC has anxiety and depression listed as long Covid symptoms.
As in we have proof one exists and none of the other?
Of course there is long Covid, and of course there is the possibility of long Covid vaccine regardless of how ridiculous and unlikely that surely is. But from a scientific standpoint, it seems all we have could be initial studies at best.
Correct. But at t+1.5 we have evidence long COVID exists. At t+1 we have zero evidence of long-term vaccine side effects.
Getting covid intentionally is stupid. If you feel up to it, get the vaccine. Any encounter with covid will be milder.
However, some people have already had it and are frankly being unjustly discriminated in some states and institutions.
I'm not against vaccines but the treatment of previously infected people as second tier has got to stop.
it only lasts a limited time though, and these measured antibodies fade within months. so people that have been sick are still encouraged to get at least 1 shot of Pfizer
It's important to add antibody levels for people that have been sick are very different. I know many sick people who got under 150 (the stated minimum to get the passport) a few weeks after being sick. With 2 shots of Pfizer I got over 12,000 units. So it's not even the same ballpark. At least for the measurable antibody tests we currently have
I suspect, if the government offered a monitored blood test to prove antibodies, the "but muh mandates" crowd will still be just as angry
I’m also confident that people like me do not experience problems from covid. At least not any more problems than a flu. A 1/3000 risk of myocarditis is not something I will risk. That’s a long term scarring of heart tissue, similar to how my father died in his 30s from teenage medical treatment.
The difference in your statement is that covid is an acute condition rather than a chronic slow growing tumor. If covid took years to show symptoms it’d be a reasonable comparison, but it’s very silly to make otherwise.
And even then, a very big majority of the myocarditis cases were mild enough to go away on their own. Only 5 people died from it and all were elderly with other pre-existing conditions.