> No, they’re not.
That would be more convincing if you gave a reason why you say "no, they're not". Even better would be evidence.
> No, they’re not.
That would be more convincing if you gave a reason why you say "no, they're not". Even better would be evidence.
> > No, they’re not.
> That would be more convincing if you gave a reason why you say "no, they're not". Even better would be evidence.
He did give his reasoning, you just chose not to quote it:
> > Like tobacco companies, oil companies have actively lied and lobbied to maintain demand and obstruct coordinated effort of exactly the kind you describe as necessary. They are not passive actors simply responding to demand as they find it.
And his reasoning was based on propaganda, if oil companies are just passive actors responding to demand, what's the need for such vicious amounts of lobbying and propaganda? My guess is that they're creating the need, and making sure that information and products that go against that propaganda don't become widespread.
I'll act in good faith and believe they are.
One quick summary by the BBC: https://www.bbc.com/news/stories-53640382
Choice quotes from above: "... I created a model that showed the Earth would be warming very significantly. And the warming would introduce climatic changes that would be unprecedented in human history. That blew my mind.
They (the oil execs) were saying things that were contradicting their own world-class research groups..."
An in depth look in podcast format.
https://drillednews.com/podcast-2/
Season Summaries: Season 1: The Origins of Climate Denial traced the corporate-funded creation and spread of climate denial, including interviews with former Exxon scientists, primary source documents, and an in-depth look at the history of fossil fuel-funded influence campaigns.
Season 2: Hot Water follows a group of West Coast crab fisherman who are experiencing first-hand the devastating impacts of climate change. And this unlikely group of climate activists just became the first industry to sue big oil.
Season 3: The Mad Men of Climate Denial digs into the history of fossil fuel propaganda and the few “Mad Men of climate denial” who shaped it.
Season 4: There Will Be Fraud follows the fossil fuel industry’s efforts to use the COVID-19 pandemic to push through its wishlist of deregulation and subsidies.
Season 5: La Lucha En La Jungla looks at the decades-long battle between indigenous groups in the Ecuadorian Amazon and Chevron.
Season 6: The Bridge to Nowhere: A season in three parts about the past, present, and future of the natural gas industry.
I'm 100% certain they covered up the truth, but I have no reason to believe that had everyone known the truth, anyone would have cared beyond hardcore environmentalists.
Most everyone does what's convenient and necessary until otherwise required.