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In comparison to Teams, Discord is a godsend. I think the biggest problem in this space is a lack of quality competition.

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Teams is an abomination, in other words it's a typical Microsoft product.

I have to admit I am almost surprised by this. Microsoft has quite some experience with bad chat software. You would think they learned one or two things that they can do better. I

I have to work with Teams every day and many times I wonder who thought the way it works is a good idea? There are so many other decent products mentioned here like Discord, Mattermost, Slack. Just nick a few ideas from each and set up a not exciting but equally decent chat software. Somehow Microsoft managed to make it worse ..

OT but seriously, name one good Microsoft product other than paint.

VS Code, TypeScript, C#, F#, GitHub but it doesn't count... I've heard good things about OneNote, I guess.

I would add Windows kernel to that list. Overall seems pretty solid. DirectX 12 too. Visual Studio.

Yeah GitHub/TypeScript kinda don't count. I have an ignorant question though : do people use c# or f# in a non-windows system, by choice ? Otherwise, wouldn't that be a self fulfilling need ?

Edit: typo

Yes, version 5 of the .NET platform (incl C# and F#) runs on Linux and MacOS, and people choose those languages over other languages because of their independent benefits (ie; C# has advantages over Java, and F# has advantages over Haskell/OCaml/etc).

I have not used them myself.

Bit of an aside, but TypeScript was invented at MSFT, and they still maintain it – why would it not count? (Other than not being a consumer product).

> but TypeScript was invented at MSFT

Sure, but JavaScript was already there, so I don't look at it as a MSFT idea event though I agree it's technically a msft product.

And Lean, I think, not that I know how to use it, but it seems to be respected in its world.

Windows Terminal is pretty good. VSCode is heavier than necessary but easy for everyone to use. Mostly their recent developer tools are good.

I find it useful to avoid explaining others how to set up their computer, which is indeed extremely useful ;)

Excel

Excel, Vscode

I agree! Excel is fun to play with as long as you use it on windows, I forgot. VScode I only used in college, but it seems useful. I'll update my list, paint and excel I consider good products indeed.

It really is. It doesn’t even make a casual attempt to adhere to MacOS interface guidelines. Even the notification system is completely custom and doesn’t work with the OS level system.

It’s insulting.

They just rolled out the option for Mac native notifications. Of course it’s easy to miss the permissions request snd then you get no notifications at all.

Bravo ... discord client on Ubuntu has never crashed or sat there using 100% of cpu doing nothing unlike Teams

That may works with the client, but not as a tab which sorrily is the only privacy sensible option

lol, I use Teams in the browser on Debian for work as it only takes a few hours before the "Teams Preview" fat client for linux starts consuming every cpu cycle my host has available.

There’s Teams, Slack, and Discord… what else would you like to see from a competitor? Lemme guess, not Electron based?

How are we approaching 2022 and I still cannot click-to-reply in Teams?

Or alt+tab into Teams on macOS?

cmd+tab+alt - the shortcut for bringing the hidden window to foreground

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