There is one example of this actually happening. Have a look at what happened with the pandermix vaccine:
narcolepsy.org.uk/blog/important-ruling-pandemrix-case
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/nov/20/swine-flu-vacc...
There is one example of this actually happening. Have a look at what happened with the pandermix vaccine:
narcolepsy.org.uk/blog/important-ruling-pandemrix-case
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/nov/20/swine-flu-vacc...
So what you need is not longer trials, but trials with more people. Which is what is done in so called phase 4 trials after approval.
Enough reason to be cautious, wait out the hidden/late-onset side effect, and not give it to those not too vulnerable to covid.
But authorities claim it's totally safe for all ages, while they have no data to back this up (that'd need a long trial, and those taking it ARE the long trial).
No drug approval process works like what you are proposing.
Hundreds of millions of people have had nearly a year to develop side effects—-the safety profile is very well known at this point.
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/concerns-history....
None of the side effects in that list took more than a few weeks to occur, and the majority them happened within a few days.
>HN is different than the comments section of a news site.
Tell me again how hacker news isn't reddit O user of 3 months.
Regardless of interpretation too, this doesn't support the claim the commenter made - there has never been a vaccine recalled within a year.
Typically the dialogue is more...dialogue than just cynicism.
What's your reasoning it is Reddit?
I'm in a low-risk group and see no use in getting vaccinated, especially since herd immunity is off the table and nearby ICUs are not overflowing. The media/pharma/politicians/bigtech are all passing out the same message: get the vaccine. Non of them highlight that there are good reasons not to. So much for informed consent?
Why all the hate against people being cautious?
My wife is a pediatric ER doctor (but because the adult ER is so swamped with COVID patients they're now seeing all patients up to 25), during the first few waves of COVID, she saw almost no severe cases in children and young adults. There were plenty of kids who came in with COVID, but she didn't admit a single otherwise healthy kid or young adult because of COVID.
In the last week, she's admitted 3 17 year olds to the PICU, and they've admitted many more than that to the floor for treatment.
>It's stories like this --gov't makes out of court settlements and vaccine retracted-- that give a lot of credibility to those against/ hesitant towards vaccination.
We have now administered billions of doses of MRNA vaccines. The safety profiles are more well known than a large percentage of drugs on the market that most people would take without a moment's hesitation.
Historically vaccines have been taken off the market b/c of issues that were too uncommon to show up in trials, which consist of only a few thousand or tens of thousands of people. The side effects were so rare that they only showed up once millions of people started taking them.
There has never been a vaccine that was pulled off the market for a side effect that took a year to show up.
I also think you underestimate how ANGRY people are that they spent 18 months in lockdown, only to have some anti-vaxers mess things up at the end. By this point, we shouldn't be talking about which areas do/don't have overflowing ICUs, we should be talking about which areas have hit milestones for number of days without a positive case!
Media fearmongering about Delta doesn't change anything. The reality is that places which have very high vaccination rates have been able to return much more to normal. And all evidence points to the more people get vaccinated, the sooner things will return entirely to normal
Now where we are: long lockdowns, talks of vax passports everywhere, no herd immunity, covid is here to stay with us (due to animal reservoirs), no overflowing ICUs but still gov'ts reigning with wartime-like superpowers.
The fearful/obedient have their vaccine, those who did not will not. Some died, most live. This is no spanish flu. So what was the problem again?