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I don't think so, it doesn't really need to "analyze" your messages to do preview urls, show videos... Those are more like frontend stuff IMO

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But people are mad precisely because the CSAM scanning is being done as "frontend stuff".

And then automatically reported to some backend, which reports to the police.

That’s a wee bit different from showing YouTube previews imo.

No more frontend than running a basic subject recognition on a photo.

A bit like on-device machine learning features, like object detection in images and video, language analysis, and sound classification?

Yup. Apple made a recognition model around sexually explicit images and locally runs opted-in child accounts' images against it: https://developer.apple.com/documentation/vision/training_a_...

Funily enough my quote was from their on device machine learning api released in 2017 - https://developer.apple.com/machine-learning/api/

I don't think it reports those links back to big brother though. Keen difference.

I doesn't do that with sexually explicit images on iMessage either.

The rest of the csam monitoring does. And nice that you abuse your karma to downvote people who don't agree with you.

There is no 'rest of CSAM monitoring'. The CSAM stuff is totally separate from the iMessage stuff we're discussing here.

> And nice that you abuse your karma to downvote people who don't agree with you.

I did not downvote you; not that you be able to tell if I did, anyway.

Literally the first sentence under the article headline

"More than 90 policy and rights groups ask company to abandon plans for scanning phones of adults for images of child sex abuse.". Maybe YOU weren't talking about csam, but everyone else was including the article author, if you even read it.

This particular thread and your own comments in this thread are about iMessage, with your comment implying it reports sexually explicit images to "big brother".

I pointed out that's not true (that's probably why other people downvoted your comment) and that you're apparently confusing the iMessage stuff with the CSAM scanning stuff which, as I already said, are completely separate from each other.

And how will you know?

but they're literally one if-statement away from doing so

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