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This is really cool! I'd love to seed the GAN with my own artwork and generate new pieces in my style

Thanks! Depending on how many artworks you've created, it might be difficult to train a GAN network on them (due to overfitting). What you might try is to train one network with a lot of random artworks, then use a Style-transfer network to convert the generated pieces into your style.

couldn't you use something like style transfer to take your own artwork's style and apply it to the generated art?

Yeah exactly, that's what I meant!

do you have the code for training ? i wasnt able to find it in your repo. That would be so cool!

I left it out as I wanted people to use their own generative art. Here's the implementation I used: https://github.com/taki0112/StyleGAN-Tensorflow

Hey thanks! so just put your pictures and run the python script ? and we can take the model and drop-in replace in yoru code ?

Sorry for the late reply. Yeah, I used that repo to train the NN. Then I modified and reduced the code to only include the generative part, and that is what I added to the Kiosk-code.

Do you actually want to disseminate your work and have many other people try it? Or is that not actually a goal.

Right now it really feels like this isn't a priority. Which is fine.

But if it is a priority that other people replicate your work, I'm not sure you're making this as easy for people as possible.

My intension is not for people to replicate my work (the trained GAN-network), but rather supply a tutorial over how to build the installation. Then people can add their own generative art/code. It could be ML-generated, or traditional "code-art".

this comment seeded an interesting idea! Many artists and photographers want to get into the NFT space but they don't necessarily have experience in digital art creation.

If you could leverage AI to generate digital art based on real artist/photographer inputs, perhaps you could create a nice little marketplace business.. or maybe just a simple AI generator plugin for an existing marketplace..

Most artists (with some exceptions) want to have nothing to do with AI generative art. They will simply continue to produce art the way they do with older technologies such as paints and brushes, musical instruments, film equipment, writing tools, and so on. Art making involves a process, a state of mind and there's always a human behind it who digests everything around them and spit something out. All these imitative AI art are beautiful in their own way but really have no substance; once the wow factor weans out they won't have much of a leg to stand on in my opinion. Art making is a self discovering journey at the same time.

Having said that, I'm curious and somewhat excited to see how these will evolve. As I said, I find them beautiful. As a painter myself there is nothing out there that will make me not paint. Sure, I sometimes use tools but there's always the me in there who is in control or driven by my human instinct.

As someone who has been a part of the demo scene in the 90s I find this offensive.

Generative art can be a wildly creative process on par with anything a painter works through. It's just a different medium.

The way you express yourself through art is not threatened by people choosing other ways using different tools. Painting did not become obsolete because someone invented art photography.

I do agree with the sentiment about NFT 'artists' though. Copy pasting a colab notebook, replacing a string and selling the result as NFT is just idiotic.

I wonder who the bigger fool is. The one who sells or the one who buys.

Demoscene Wikipedia https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demoscene

Wired article about the demo scene from 1995 https://www.wired.com/1995/07/democoders/

A lot of what we call "art" now means just "pleasant picture". I could see AI "art" competing on price with stock pictures and cheap illustrations for throwaway/placeholder usecases, or when uniqueness is preferred.

It's already happening with social media profile pictures for instances. Next up could be the filler artworks in hotel rooms.

That's good insight. I am not an artist but I've also run this idea by a friend who is. He loves the idea and is curious what a technological interpretation of his work might look like. He's also interested in how we might use those interpretations to create a new segment of collections for this brand.

Everything is a remix. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zd-dqUuvLk4

Made by humans and that is key. They digest what came before and spit out something else, a remix as you call it but which does veer in different directions over time

i don't know any real artists who actually want to get into the NFT space, only con-artists.

Thats what I am thinking about, what kind of images to train on

Or seed it with XKCD.

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