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They have been selling laptops without os for quite some time. I guess having a preinstall has some use but not much for me.

The E14 gen3 is looking pretty nice for myself. Zen 3 ryzen (not quite M1 levels of raw power but not too far behind) with 24G ram and 512+1000G SSD for little over 1000 euros.

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Had E14 gen2. Was very happy except screen. Colors are wrong and not visible when in bright environment. Sold it and got an M1. For compile, programming etc. tasks its 2-3x faster.

Did you run Linux or Windows on it?

> Sold it and got an M1. For compile, programming etc. tasks its 2-3x faster.

You mean the M1 is? That seems slightly incredible. 20-50% improvement I would've accepted easily, but 200-300% seems a bit on the high side.

AFAIK, mobile Zen 3 is behind M1 in single-core workloads but wins in (most) multi-core tasks if you're using the top core count models (5800, 5900).

Yes, the M1 is about 0-20% faster in single core benchmarks and slower in everything multi-core. https://www.notebookcheck.net/R7-5700U-vs-M1_12978_12937.247...

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