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They didn't pull out. Apple discloses over 30,000 customers' data each year without a warrant under PRISM (aka FISA 702) as disclosed in their own transparency report (listed under "FISA orders").

PRISM is just the internal NSA name for it. It continues unabated.

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FISA orders are written by a Judge. Only judges can write these, this is the literal definition of a warrant. Warrants require specifics - Person X, person Y. These are enumerable. There is paperwork.

PRISM, based on the data available, is all about consuming data WITHOUT a warrant -- vacuuming data associated with identities that are not associated with ANY identities subject to a court order. Violating laws and possibly (USA) constitutional rights in quite a few ways. PRISM likely exists.

I ask of "sneak" to confirm their assertion that "PRISM == FISA orders" is true. Please present this "evidence" and the evidence of connection. If you cannot you are, by default, distributing mis-information, bad logic or at worst tying to mislead.

(my naive searching suggests that "sneak" is definitely not in a position to make these claims)

Judges can write lots of orders but that doesn't make them search warrants which are defined by the US constitution as requiring probable cause. FISA court orders are not search warrants.

FISA Amendments Act (FAA) section 702 is the legal basis claimed by the NSA in a secret interpretation by the FISA court as the basis for PRISM targeted collection without search warrants, including US persons/citizens.

It's on Wikipedia if you don't believe me:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Intelligence_Surveil...

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