Is the healthcare system in New Zealand better than the states?
Is the healthcare system in New Zealand better than the states?
Most western countries have better healthcare system than the US, New Zealand included.
- US comes in last in health care rankings of high-income countries - https://edition.cnn.com/2021/08/04/health/us-health-care-ran...
- Health Care in the U.S. Compared to Other High-Income Countries - https://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/fund-reports/2...
Had a colleague whose wife worked at a Swedish hospital and she had patients from all over the world, not because the Swedish health system or even that hospital was particularly fantastic, but because she was one of the top people in the world in this one very niche thing.
Now, out of all developed countries, why did you mention Japan? IIRC, Japan produces little medical research compared to the UK or even Germany.
US scores poorly in those due to high sticker prices; the quality available for those who can afford is the best in US; both for specialist rare cases and for mundane cases.
I only doubt you a little, but in order to make this discussion as truthful as possible, you mind adding some sources to your strong claims?
If you're 'poor'. If you're rich it's an entirely different situation. And I think it's fair to classify Larry Page as rich.
The average US HN user has better care than the average HN user from elsewhere because we gainfully employed techs have decent insurance.
I am now in Israel, where I had much better outcomes than when I was in the US (with excellent insurance). Anecdotal, but I know many stories of Israelis who moved back to Israel with first diagnosis of a serious disease despite a good insurance - mostly because they were aware of horror stories of people losing their insurance at some point and going bankrupt (COBRA is damn expensive, and only lasts 18 month at its longest).
Granted, their experience predates Obamacare - it might be different now.
I have had far worse experiences in Canada than in the US.
Israel has an excellent, though very unpleasant, free public system; and also a parallel private system that’s as expensive as the US (but that has a very distinct use profile because of the existence of the public system).
You’ll almost always get to see an ER doctor within a couple of hours in the public system, and a junior specialist for a non-emergency within a couple of weeks, but if you want the real expert specialist, you’ll wait 6 months in the public system, or 2 weeks if you go private.
Time constants from the center / Tel Aviv area. I heard they are worse the farther away you are - but then, 90% of the population is within a 2 hour drive of Tel Aviv, and the rest are less than 4 hours drive or 40 minute flight.
I don't how you post that so comfortably and without qualification.
If you look at any of the research, the US has effectively the same survival rate of an emergency admission or elective surgery as the rest of the world (within a small margin).
This doesn't even control other items such as age, violence, body weight, pre-existing conditions, etc etc. Arguably the U.S. has a bigger issue with weight, which would indicate the U.S. healthcare system may be slightly more robust.
I'm not saying it's perfect, but I'd avoid diving into political leaning pundits -- common wealth fund and CNN are both political pundits. Looking at the raw data it is not as clear.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4515980/
Even this is political, but it's more clear: https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/chart-collection/quality...
U.S. does a lot better in some areas, worse in others. But if you control for weight it's going to be better.
Canadian here. The AVERAGE Canadian's health care is MUCH better than the average American's.
But the best hospitals and the best healthcare in the world is in the US ... if you can afford it. Most of our multi-millionaires and billionaires go to the US for anything critical.
An amazingly high portion of Canadians don't have a family doctor (<https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/despite-more-doctors-many-cana...>). In Atlantic Canada the shortage is astounding (<https://www.thetelegram.com/in-depth/doctor-shortage/what-we...>). It's one thing to have shortages in rural areas—that also happens in the US—but Halifax?!? I've heard the same occurs in Vancouver too.
>But the best hospitals and the best healthcare in the world is in the US ... if you can afford it.
91% of Americans have health insurance, compared to 95-97% for Canada and every other developed country. There are always people who fall into cracks, such as the Canadian who neglects to sign up for a new provincial health care card after moving. The only way to have true 100% coverage is to do what the UK does and not require any card or ID at point of delivery.
>Most of our multi-millionaires and billionaires go to the US for anything critical.
Politicians too, such as Jean Chretien, who twice visited the Mayo Clinic while Prime Minister, disguising the visits as "ski vacations" (<https://web.archive.org/web/20160624132234/http://www.ezrale...>).
And second, apart from living in the middle of Siberia [1] or in the Amazon jungle with literally no contact with anyone, believing that you won't get Covid in Fiji because it's more isolated is just a wrong premise. Unless they are airlifted all your supplies get, well, supplied to you via direct human contact, no matter how much you try just one small slip/moment of not paying attention can make the difference between being infected and not being infected. And if you do get infected it's better to be located close to a hospital, not literally on an island in the middle of the Pacific.
Just bad decisions all around.
[1] https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/for-40-years-this-rus...
EDIT : wrong year!
https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/industry/tourism-and-trans...
borders open, ~8K arrivals. 1h flight time difference between Auckland and Sydney.
May I know what the significance of January 2020 is? Isn't that before Australia closed their borders?
>the billionaire and one of his children were granted access to New Zealand in January