If America is confident that the last election was fair, they should expect another 306-232 trouncing of Trump, and therefore welcome another vote.
That said, with Biden's approval ratings as high as they are, it would probably be in the Dems' favor if they could get an early election before the GOP state legislatures manage to implement all their gerrymandering and voter suppression bills.
Fair point, but I fail to see how it's not a situation of "let's have a rerun because I didn't get my preferred outcome". Case in point: if the vote was 70-30 in favor of the union, how much support will there be for a rerun?
This is all off-topic, but in the interest of accuracy: according to 538's average of polls, Biden's approval rating is not that high, just 51%.
I literally have no idea what would have to happen for a President to get a 65%+ approval or a net of +20 in this day and age. There would need to be a complete recalibration of the parties.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/dominion-maricopa-co...
> They also stated that some of the materials that have been requested are in the custody of the recorder's office, which was not named in the subpoena, according to the Republic.
> "Specifically, providing these routers puts sensitive, confidential data belonging to Maricopa County citizens - including Social Security numbers and protected health information - at risk," Thomas Liddy, civil division chief for the county attorney's office, wrote.
None of this seems unreasonable to me. An aside, but I'd think a tech forum like HN would be interested in a more critical examination of the conspiracy theory around internet routers containing proof of electoral fraud. Every angle I've read on it sounds like utter nonsense. Let's not pretend it's anything other than a fishing expedition aimed at sowing doubt in voters minds.
The theory is essentially that the machines weren't properly secured, they cite some provision of AZ election law that I don't recall precisely which states that if the machines aren't air-gapped the election is invalid and must be rerun.
They think the routers are the proof that the rules were broken and thus will force a revote. When pressed they never can really articulate a specific theory of fraud, just that the rules were broken and they're upset when the rules were broken and their guy lost.
So, we don't need to follow the law?
The law is merely advisory and doesn't require our adherence?
Would you be this unaffected by violations of the law if your guy hadn't won?
https://recorder.maricopa.gov/justthefacts/
> This is false. Maricopa County uses an air-gapped system, meaning its tabulation equipment is never connected to the internet and is completely separated from the Maricopa County network. There are no routers connected to the system and there never have been.
> Two separate federally certified Voting System Testing Laboratories independently confirmed that the system is not connected to the internet. In February 2021, they tested the equipment and found no evidence of internet connectivity. The firms also confirmed that there was not any malicious software or hardware installed on the tabulation equipment.
Audit results: https://www.maricopa.gov/5681/Elections-Equipment-Audit#Resu...
This was literally 1 minute of Googling by the way.
In this instance there is no evidence that any law has been broken. Requesting the routers is a fishing expedition based on zero evidence. The equipment has already been tested and proven to not be connected to the internet, if they turn over the routers then "stop the steal" activists will say the hacks are actually hidden in the ethernet cables, or something. This is not an investigation based on facts, it is an attempt to confuse and sow doubt.
Having the router connected to the internet might be against the law, but refusing a request to turn over routers is not a violation of the law.
What do you believe will happen to remedy this?
I'm all for enforcing the law, but I recognize that local authorities are essentially unaccountable to the rest of the nation. I assume that the residents of Maricopa county either support the outcome, are unable or unwilling to change it, or do not care about our civic processes.
I imagine Maricopa county has no interest in throwing away all these routers and buying new ones. This is on top of the disruption of service that providing the physical routers will cause.
The whole letter is worth a read by the way:
https://www.maricopa.gov/DocumentCenter/View/70435/Final-Sig...