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Jeffrey Epstein didn’t kill himself.

I don't think Epstein getting prosecuted in the first place was part of the script. The people who had him killed have enough power to pull off much more complex undertakings.

Don't forget about Ghislane Maxwell. Keep an eye on that story as well. Let's see how it plays out.

If he's killed because he knew to much, why's she still alive?

Can't pull the same stunt twice. In the famous words of George W Bush, "Fool me once, shame on ... shame on you. Fool me... You can't get fooled again!"

maybe he's not dead

I think the most likely case is he did kill himself.

The second most likely case on the long tail is that Bill Barr ordered him dead. Everything else is unlikely in my eyes.

The preponderance of evidence disagrees.

There's a reason why he got the lightest sex offender conviction in US history. Very likely he was providing information on his associate's exploits as part of a deal. Once they knew he was squealing it was only a matter of time before they fixed their problem.

I thought we have a lack of any evidence. No witnesses, no footage.

Really, Wikipedia's article on it sounds like no one is that sure.

It's the title of a chapter toward the end of Brown's book. A criticism, because she never answers the question or gives any evidence.

But not beyond a reasonable doubt?

I look at it like this: a murder is plausible because there were definitely some powerful people who wanted him dead. But for a murder or a hit to have happened there'd need to be a whole slew of extremely difficult tasks to set it up and leave zero trace. Also, it's thoroughly plausible that he killed himself and it would have been really easy to do it without any complicated plot. Occam's Razor says suicide.

I'm entirely prepared to accept that someone in his position would attempt suicide, but from everything I've read, it seems implausible that he coincidentally happened to choose a time to do so, precisely when it would leave no evidence. If he did kill himself, it only seems plausible that he did so when he did because he was told that he would be able to go through with it.

I don't think that's a coincidence. He knew his suicide watch was expired. The story about broken cameras was exaggerated because no cameras were ever pointed at his cell. Only one camera of many malfunctioned. There was ample evidence showing no one approached his cell. I'm also assuming the sleeping guards happens all the time at every jail and just never makes national news.

> Occam's Razor says suicide.

Are you allowed a razor in prison, though?

lol

Quite likely I'd agree, but him dying in custody to me is a sign that he didn't "get away with it"

Whoever killed him, has also gotten away with it so far...plus whatever else they've done that Epstein knew about.

I supposed the article meant "get away with it (long enough)".

Do we need to get the fact checkers involved. They will debunk you faster than you can say "election fraud". now take your shot.

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