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Gain of function researchers working for the world's militaries will use this research to figure out how to get viruses to attach to receptor sites peculiar to particular races. The people developing the antivirals will have a lot harder time countering these weapons because making antivirals that aren't poisonous in some weird way is a much harder job. If this is not the case, please let me know why, it will really help me sleep better at night.

A U.S congressional representative came out of a classified briefing recently and announced that the CCP is hard at work on race specific bioweapons.[1]

Unfortunately, I think this is the launch of a new era of weapons we're seeing right now. The biggest development in war since the atom bomb. Like the atom bomb, the big question was will we kill ourselves with this technology. Who knows?

[1]https://yournews.com/2021/07/22/2185645/rep-marjorie-taylor-...

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1. Gain of function is not as easy as you think. 2. Such bio-weapons are not likely because any virus released in the wild will mutate over time, and also because you cannot target "races" in the way you describe. Phenotypic traits span across geographical borders, and any attempt to do such a thing is likely to backfire.

I think if the CCP were successful in creating race targeted bioweapons it would be in their interest to convince the world that they didn't exist.

Insults, character assassination campaigns and politicizing the existence of these bioweapons would be a good way to do that. Just copy paste some of the comments here and change the name to insult anyone who thinks they exist. They could then go and kill millions and not receive any retaliation whatsoever with people praising them for their effective program of keeping the disease epidemic they created under control. Even if you got the guy who discovered AIDS and won the Nobel prize for it to say that these were gain of function viruses that incorporated HIV protein parts, you could just launch a big propaganda campaign to attack his character.[1] Much cheaper than having to fight a war.

[1]https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/scitech/science/736458/frenc...

...and many doctors will use it to attach pharmaceuticals to receptor sites of particular cancers.

I'm thinking that the problem is is that it is much harder to develop drugs that only kill cancers very efficiently and don't harm the rest of the body than to tweak viruses that just have to keep the person alive long enough to spread the virus.

I 100% agree your point is valid. The counterargument is "Yes, people can do bad things with protein data, just as they can do bad things with a telephone, like use it to discuss a bank robbery."

The crazy part is a bioweapons program is really cheap compared to a nuclear weapons program, and now with these new tools it's even cheaper. Before, it was vastly more expensive to do the cycle of creating a new viral protein and testing a bioweapon on human cell culture. Now that process is speeded up millions of times with this technology because that can all take place inside a computer.

This is similar to the change with drone weaponry. Before, you had to have large cruise missiles to get pinpoint strikes. Now small countries like Azerbaijan can buy a whole fleet of drone weapons and get the benefits of having a modern air force with pinpoint strikes and even stealth for vastly less money.

Is this a correct summary of your statements:

Because it -might- make things slightly easier for a state actor with nigh-unlimited resources to enact a doomsday scenario, which they might or might not be pursuing, medical researchers should not publish otherwise helpful research?

I think it's great that the Wuhan institute published all their gain of function research. They even said who paid for it. It's a clear trail back to them, but apparently taking any action to acknowledge that this is a bad thing and something fishy might be going on is a completely politicized issue now that apparently gets as many downvotes as arguing about hot button political topics now.

What I'm saying is there should at least be an open and frank discussion of what the whole world is getting itself into right now with all this.

It's a bit of a Gish gallop to ignore my point and say something orthogonal that only is weakly related to your original assertion.

Gain of function research is simultaneously concerning (aside from bioweapons use, there is also the possibility of deliberate release) and important (to understand how pathogenesis happens and to better combat future pandemics and bioweapons). It, however, has approximately nothing to do with your assertions that A) China is preparing race-targeted pathogens, or B) that publishing a protein folding database does anything significant to assist China with A.

> ... at least be an open and frank discussion of ...

OK, then you need to be open and frank, rather than engaging in these dishonest argument tactics.

> Ridiculous fookin’ idjit and compulsive liar M.T.Greene came out of a classified briefing recently and announced that the CCP is hard at work on race specific bioweapons.

Fixed that for you. By the way, you shouldn’t pay attention to that clown.

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