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Cool. Does anyone have a paper comparing all the neu-fangled IM tech? I find myself a bit confused.

BTW my favorite Matrix feature from the concept paper: "Integrität dank hohem Out-of-the-box-Sicherheitsniveau" - dank, hohem out-of-the-box Sicherheitsniveau sounds pretty great. (Wonder why they didn't say "aus der Box"?)

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Ironically when I was working there, they would translate a lot of English words into German because most of the people in those institutions have been working there for 30+ years and don't have any exposure to English terminology. When they used Jira "Todo" was a term that needed to be translated.

I wonder if it would have been less confusing as to-do

Personal favourite Neudeutsch phrase, I heard a while back:

“Mein Schedule ist arsch-tight”

In some regions "[arsch] eng" might well be used ... funny thing is it means more or less the same as "ass tight" but [arsch] would be dialect for "arg" which can be roughly translated to "almost a bit too much".

I’m imagining this with an Austrian dialect right now lmao

Because that phrase doesn't exist in German like that. They could have used "standardmäßig" but out-of-the box is more widely used when talking about software and tech.

Well we do have "von Haus aus" but it's less formal and can't be used as a 1:1 replacement because of the grammar.

Perhaps more fitting would be ab Werk, (out of the factory), but either put the focus on the wrong situation.

You could say a priori but then you're just exchanging English for Latin.

When English idioms are translated to other languages it's often cringe-inducing. I can't imagine someone seriously saying "ut ur lådan" or something in Swedish.

At some point you tend to forget what idioms belong to which language and you can greatly confuse people. But Holla the wood fairy.

Yeah, no danger on the roof, eh?

Because we adopted that word.

And anyway, it all comes full circle, because "out" and "of" both have Germanic roots (google "etymology some-word" and you don't even have to go to any specific website, Google already showing a nice graph). Box has Greek/Latin roots, and German has plenty of those too (List of German words with Latin roots: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_lateinischer_Lehn-_und_F...).

https://xkcd.com/1810/

https://matrix.org/blog/2017/03/11/how-do-i-bridge-thee-let-... :P

yes, each tech is an edge in the hypergraph[1] connecting all humans.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypergraph

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